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Old 05-24-2006, 10:57 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold

Try this converter:
http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/
..or if you already are, with some better settings.

He's certainly representing top or second set, but he could also be semi-bluffing. There's a small chance he's trying to push you off a biggish hand or even thinking he is value-betting with top two, as bet-3-betting the flop would scare almost anything as that would look like a set. You do have to take your image into account here.

My reason for folding would be that the 1800 bet totally commits you, and he knows it.
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold

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Try this converter:
http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/
..or if you already are, with some better settings.

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Yeah, I tried it, I fiddled around with it, I changed it to the "2+2" setting, it still came out with garbage. Finally I just manually took out some of the extraneous stuff.
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold

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Try this converter:
http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/
..or if you already are, with some better settings.

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Yeah, I tried it, I fiddled around with it, I changed it to the "2+2" setting, it still came out with garbage. Finally I just manually took out some of the extraneous stuff.

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2+2 output
-> enter your name on site
cc0000 color raises
ffffff color results
show stacks 1
show stacks 2
show results

The rest default/off
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Old 05-25-2006, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold

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Try this converter:
http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/
..or if you already are, with some better settings.

He's certainly representing top or second set, but he could also be semi-bluffing. There's a small chance he's trying to push you off a biggish hand or even thinking he is value-betting with top two, as bet-3-betting the flop would scare almost anything as that would look like a set. You do have to take your image into account here.

My reason for folding would be that the 1800 bet totally commits you, and he knows it.

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Is it a common play for someone to bet out with a big set and then slow down? I don't see why the villian wouldn't stick in a third raise on the flop w/ the set. Why wait to check-raise on the turn with a set of aces or queens?
That's why I'm thinking the turn check-raise maybe some sort of semi-bluff. Or maybe he just wants it to look like a semi-bluff [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] If he really has the big set you have got to give him kudos for a savvy play.
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Old 05-24-2006, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold

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He limps his weaker hands from MP.

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Old 05-24-2006, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold

get busted! seriously though I think your going to have to play a big pot here, yes his line is strong but it includes far too many hands you are beating already.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold

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get busted! seriously though I think your going to have to play a big pot here, yes his line is strong but it includes far too many hands you are beating already.

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far too many hands? are you serious?
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Old 05-25-2006, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold?

Tough Spot. I go to the felt expecting to see A Q.

However, last time I was in a similar spot it didn't turn out so well. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:03 AM
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Screename?
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: deepish with bottom set, his line is superstrong, ALLINOMG or fold?

I think you played it fine. I push the turn. You've got him beat far too often to fold here.

Kirk
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