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Old 05-25-2007, 09:04 PM
ShakeZula06 ShakeZula06 is offline
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children?

you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

I say assuming you believe in God, that God has Mercy so for an event that a pregnancy is caused by rape, incest, molestation, these extreme circumstances, I think God would have mercy on this decision.

I do however think that if you just are careless and irresponsible and get pregnant and decide to copout and get an aborition cause your not ready to have a kid or your puting your comfortableness ahead of a unborn childs life, then I think that is blatant wrong. Whether the eternal punishment is deemed murder I dont know, but, so much heartless decision goes into abortions that it sets a very unhealthy view on life in the belly.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

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you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.

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Try telling that to the jury for me when I leave my 5 year old out in the woods and he starves to death.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:35 PM
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you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.

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Try telling that to the jury for me when I leave my 5 year old out in the woods and he starves to death.

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legal rights =/= natural rights
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

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you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.

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Many abortion methods do not simply let the baby die.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

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you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.

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While I've often quoted this argument in philosophy papers of mine, it definitely is not "letting a baby die."
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

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you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.

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While I've often quoted this argument in philosophy papers of mine, it definitely is not "letting a baby die."

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Many abortion methods do not simply let the baby die.

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There isn't a way to remove the fetus and keep it alive.
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

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you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.

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While I've often quoted this argument in philosophy papers of mine, it definitely is not "letting a baby die."

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Many abortion methods do not simply let the baby die.

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There isn't a way to remove the fetus and keep it alive.

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And so forcing someone into a dangerous position is morally reprehensible. If you and I are on an airplane and I force you to jump out at gunpoint, I'm still responsible for your death because my actions put you in harms way when you otherwise would not have been. I didn't just "remove a positive".
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

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you're not killing it, you're letting it die
removal of a possitive =/= imposing a negative, ftw.

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While I've often quoted this argument in philosophy papers of mine, it definitely is not "letting a baby die."

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Many abortion methods do not simply let the baby die.

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There isn't a way to remove the fetus and keep it alive.

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And so forcing someone into a dangerous position is morally reprehensible.

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Who's forcing who into a dangerous positon?
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If you and I are on an airplane and I force you to jump out at gunpoint, I'm still responsible for your death because my actions put you in harms way when you otherwise would not have been. I didn't just "remove a positive".

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The positive is the fetus's ability to use the mother's body to live. Can you show that a fetus has some right to the women's womb?
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: If you perform abortion are you murdering God\'s beautiful children

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Who's forcing who into a dangerous positon?

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Is this really hard to figure out? The person performing the abortion and the mother are forcing the fetus into a dangerous position just as a person forcing another out of a plane at gun point it.

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The positive is the fetus's ability to use the mother's body to live. Can you show that a fetus has some right to the women's womb?

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Except in the cases of rape, the woman "invited" the fetus because of her actions. You have a duty of care to people you invite onto your property not to put their lives in jeopardy.

Say I drug you and stuff you inside my little Cessna. I take us up to 20,000 feet. Now I say get out. Is there nothing wrong with my demand? Am I not culpable for your death if I shove you out the door?
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