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Re: 99 HU and OOP...how to avoid the discomfort?
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If you dont not have a plan, cannot adapt your plan, or just play this flop, 3 betting is a bad idea imo [/ QUOTE ] The plan in the 2nd hand was to squeeze the raiser and either take it down right there, or get it heads up. If somebody comes over the top, it's an easy fold for me. If I do get it heads up, their response to a c-bet should be pretty pure, since they've got to put me on something big and committed. So, I guess it just sucks that I got two callers and the flop is so tempting. Giving up feels weak, but it seems like the obvious move to me. You say '...just play this flop...' what it mean? |
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Re: 99 HU and OOP...how to avoid the discomfort?
I have no problem 3 betting 99 preflop but it needs to be morel ik the second hand CO is likely to have a wide range and the flop is good for our hand. With MP raising in the first hand his range isnt going to be quite as large. I am giving up after getting called on the flop in hand one and you need to Cbet in hand to the situation is totally different. ducy?
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Re: 99 HU and OOP...how to avoid the discomfort?
You seem to like playing medium pp's aggressively preflop OOP. Both spots you're up against big stacks showing strength from position. Classic flat call for set equity preflop in both situations.
Hand 1: c/f the flop Hand 2: I would use a c/c, possibly c/r, line since you can get value from a villain cbet here, and re-evaluate on the turn. |
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Re: 99 HU and OOP...how to avoid the discomfort?
Nevermind Hand 2 I like the 3 bet pf. Heads up bet for value and reevaluate on the turn. If villain calls a 3/4 pot size bet on the flop here proceed cautiously. He's raising with a decent range of hands that dont have you overpaired. Hand 1 is just bad though.
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Re: 99 HU and OOP...how to avoid the discomfort?
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You seem to like playing medium pp's aggressively preflop OOP. Both spots you're up against big stacks showing strength from position. Classic flat call for set equity preflop in both situations. Hand 1: c/f the flop Hand 2: I would use a c/c, possibly c/r, line since you can get value from a villain cbet here, and re-evaluate on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Not really, it just happend to happen twice this morning and put me in uncomfortable spots both times. I guess I'll quit. In any case, in hand two, how often do you think we're ahead? And, if we are, do you really think players will put more money in w/ worse? C-betting is as a pure bluff, and after all that cold-calling with this particular flop, I think we run into a call too often. How's that for weak? |
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Re: 99 HU and OOP...how to avoid the discomfort?
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[ QUOTE ] You seem to like playing medium pp's aggressively preflop OOP. Both spots you're up against big stacks showing strength from position. Classic flat call for set equity preflop in both situations. Hand 1: c/f the flop Hand 2: I would use a c/c, possibly c/r, line since you can get value from a villain cbet here, and re-evaluate on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Not really, it just happend to happen twice this morning and put me in uncomfortable spots both times. I guess I'll quit. In any case, in hand two, how often do you think we're ahead? And, if we are, do you really think players will put more money in w/ worse? C-betting is as a pure bluff, and after all that cold-calling with this particular flop, I think we run into a call too often. How's that for weak? [/ QUOTE ] Hand 2: How's this. Bet 3/4 pot on flop and turn streets since they could perceive your flop bet as a light cbet. If they show resistence we obv have to roll over and turn to c/f mode since we're OOP. If you dont take it down on the turn and get flat called down, c/c the riv assuming we dont see 2 over cards on the turn and riv. |
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Re: 99 HU and OOP...how to avoid the discomfort?
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... Hand 2: How's this. Bet 3/4 pot on flop and turn streets since they could perceive your flop bet as a light cbet. If they show resistence we obv have to roll over and turn to c/f mode since we're OOP. If you dont take it down on the turn and get flat called down, c/c the riv assuming we dont see 2 over cards on the turn and riv. [/ QUOTE ] You realize that we don't have two 3/4pot bets left, right? That's what made this spot tough, or maybe it should make it simple. If we're not committed, putting more in now is a mistake, unless it's intended as a straight bluff. I don't think I really want to commit, and I don't think a bluff will work often enough, so I guess it's simple. |
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