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Re: Nina Disagrees.
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[ QUOTE ] what the [censored] is up with the flop call? oh, betbetbet on the turn and make that the last bet invested in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you mean we should 3-bet the flop? if we 3-ball and that turn comes then what? [/ QUOTE ] well I'd bet/fold given that turn, but not 3-betting the flop anyway sucks. |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] what the [censored] is up with the flop call? oh, betbetbet on the turn and make that the last bet invested in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you mean we should 3-bet the flop? if we 3-ball and that turn comes then what? [/ QUOTE ] well I'd bet/fold given that turn, but not 3-betting the flop anyway sucks. [/ QUOTE ] Raising a safe turn is superior with this board. |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
"Raising a safe turn is superior with this board. "
proof please |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] what the [censored] is up with the flop call? oh, betbetbet on the turn and make that the last bet invested in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you mean we should 3-bet the flop? if we 3-ball and that turn comes then what? [/ QUOTE ] well I'd bet/fold given that turn, but not 3-betting the flop anyway sucks. [/ QUOTE ] Raising a safe turn is superior with this board. [/ QUOTE ] assuming donk (I mean villain) is decent? |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
Shouldn't we wonder about his turn check? Is that:
- A spade draw using the scary turn to get a free card? - A ten thinking a turn bet will lead to a fold - A ten waiting to check-raise? - A pair or two-pair who hate the queen as well? Doesn't a ten just bet and hopes that hero bites down on a stick and call down with his pair/two-pair? He can hardly expect hero to bet this board without a ten himself. So, there are four scenarios (disregarding a stone bluff by BB), and in two (BB is on a spade draw, BB has a pair) betting is good, whereas in the other two (BB has a ten, BB has a two-pair) checking is good, because we're behind but we have outs. In these spots, I tend to turn turtle and check behind and call river. It's maybe weak, but at least I get to showdown and I get to see what BB plays this way. Confused but cheers anyway, [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Smurf PS: What is is Nina disagrees with? |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
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"Raising a safe turn is superior with this board. " proof please [/ QUOTE ] I shouldn't have said this. I think it's just as ludicrous to say that one of these two options is clearly better than the other. It depends in part with what other hands I intend to play like this later as well as the villain though that doesn't say much. The two 2ers I checked this hand with were fine with raising the turn. As for proof, if villain's range includes draws and pairs, I lose nothing when I'm in position and wait for the turn. I earn an extra small bet when he calls down to my turn pop (likely with any J and any 9/8 combo, possible with 9s). I miss a small bet when a scare card comes on the turn and I opt to call down and am still good.(I also save a small bet some of these times). This assumes that villain fires all turns(obv. wrong but this turn card is a scare card) which I believe is a reasonable assumption. Am I missing something miles or are you just being snoody because my statement was so broadly full of crap? |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
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PS: What is is Nina disagrees with? [/ QUOTE ] She obviously disagrees with the turn decision. That's why I posted it. |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
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[ QUOTE ] "Raising a safe turn is superior with this board. " proof please [/ QUOTE ] I shouldn't have said this. I think it's just as ludicrous to say that one of these two options is clearly better than the other. ... Am I missing something miles or are you just being snoody because my statement was so broadly full of crap? [/ QUOTE ] i was being dumb because you did the same thing. |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
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[ QUOTE ] PS: What is is Nina disagrees with? [/ QUOTE ] She obviously disagrees with the turn decision. That's why I posted it. [/ QUOTE ] I always thought Nina was male and simply named after that character from Tekken. |
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Re: Nina Disagrees.
b/f b/f
I usually puss out on the river bet. The turn b/f is important though. |
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