Theory question. Maybe boring.

[Buzz-cp]

Let's start with:
raise preflop -- I think we have a good hand here vs any number of opponents

Also, this is not a good example, because you can call a bet on the turn because you have overcard outs too. A better example, would probably be HU where we know we must improve to a flush, and implied odds do not exist.

Having said that, the argument that betting to give yourself odds on a later street is flawed. If you put money in a pot on a given street it's either a value-bet, or a bluff/semi-bluff. Assuming you were not going to call the turn if the pot size did not increase, then putting in a bet on the flop lowers your turn expectation. The idea is: you have no stake in the pot when it was small, so you really do not care to be putting bets in it. When the pot is bigger, you have a small stake in it. Each street is viewed in a vacuum, because it does not matter where those bets came from.

Not sure if this makes sense?

Buzz

[Bona]

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this is not a good example, because you can call a bet on the turn because you have overcard outs too.

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Yes. I missed that in play so I made 2 mistakes on the same play [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

You and others are saying the bet was +EV though in light of the drawing potential and the number of opponents (implied equity?) Am I getting that right?

[MrWookie]

Let's take the pot out of the question for now. Just answer this. Let's say it's just you and 3 guys. If you win, you win 3 bets. If you lose, you lose 1 bet. You expect to win 35ish% of the time. Is this a good wager for you?

[Bona]

Yes. That could generate a pretty good income if I could get enough of it. "Light bulb goes on" Thank you.