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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
Not in a million years.
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x. [/ QUOTE ] agree, JJ+ seems quite likely [/ QUOTE ] agree w this can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove? [/ QUOTE ] naw, but i think his turn bet is slightly less likely to be jj qq now... Still, I don't think you should fold, I think his range includes a lot of bluffs-- though this is just conjecture, never played w/ taylor. |
#13
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
what do we like then? shove? call/fold river? call/call river?
fold? |
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x. [/ QUOTE ] agree, JJ+ seems quite likely [/ QUOTE ] agree w this can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove? [/ QUOTE ] if his range is this vague that we're valuebluffing to ensure a showdown, we're getting owned |
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x. [/ QUOTE ] agree, JJ+ seems quite likely [/ QUOTE ] agree w this can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove? [/ QUOTE ] naw, but i think his turn bet is slightly less likely to be jj qq now... Still, I don't think you should fold, I think his range includes a lot of bluffs-- though this is just conjecture, never played w/ taylor. [/ QUOTE ] i don't agree that his turn bet doesn't look like JJ/QQ i think it looks just as much like that as anything else. he probably CR bluffs this board since it's so dry and your c-bet% is prob high on it. i definitely think he's capable of going turn and river for value with QQ/JJ, i have no idea why he wouldnt actually. if his CR is a bluff a high %, we're calling with a T a lot (or other pairs, sometimes peeling the turn obv) and i think he shoul dbe pounding QQ/JJ for value continuously- if i CRed QQ/JJ on this flop, i'd probably bet turn and shove river on any river except a T.. |
#16
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
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what do we like then? shove? call/fold river? call/call river? fold? [/ QUOTE ] i prob call turn fold river that sounds kind of weak- i'd go call/call if i had some kind of experience that he was definitely capable and enjoyed CRing and firing two more barrels; but some people don't do it with much frequency (really have no idea about his habits and have no hands with him) |
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x. [/ QUOTE ] agree, JJ+ seems quite likely [/ QUOTE ] agree w this can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove? [/ QUOTE ] if his range is this vague that we're valuebluffing to ensure a showdown, we're getting owned [/ QUOTE ] what are you talking about its a straight bluff if he has JJ-QQ |
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x. [/ QUOTE ] agree, JJ+ seems quite likely [/ QUOTE ] agree w this can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove? [/ QUOTE ] if his range is this vague that we're valuebluffing to ensure a showdown, we're getting owned [/ QUOTE ] what are you talking about its a straight bluff if he has JJ-QQ [/ QUOTE ] if he has those particular hands, yes. |
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x. [/ QUOTE ] agree, JJ+ seems quite likely [/ QUOTE ] agree w this can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove? [/ QUOTE ] if his range is this vague that we're valuebluffing to ensure a showdown, we're getting owned [/ QUOTE ] what are you talking about its a straight bluff if he has JJ-QQ [/ QUOTE ] no way is it a bluff if he has QQ or JJ. Theres no chance of you folding a better hand than QQ to this action, and you shouldnt. |
#20
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Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
Have you been tight utg? If he's observant, that could mean a lot for his range.
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