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Old 09-26-2007, 07:04 AM
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have to cap this preflop (the original coldcall is good, but when its back to you cappucino)

flop donk is ridic. check and reevaluate. as played the call of the raise is good.

turn is closer than ppl are saying imo, this is a big pot and it is very rarely getting 3bet, even with the shortstack... BB pretty much always has an overpair, and CO is repping a set/2pair. i thiiink its a fold, but its very marginal and certainly not a big mistake given potsize.

call the river... it would be a huge mistake to fold a winner and see random Q9/TT/KT hands all over the place. fwiw i would say we are good roughly 1 in ~30 times here, and chopping maybe slightly more than that
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:42 AM
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have to cap this preflop (the original coldcall is good, but when its back to you cappucino)

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Are you thinking EQ edge?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:22 AM
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Can someone explain why you wouldnt fold preflop here? From what ive read, KQ, suited or not, is not a great hand to be cold calling 2 with preflop, and i have generally found this to be true from experience. He says no reads so its not that he knew he would be in a multiway hand. I would fold here preflop

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I know Aussie already responded to this but I had a couple ideas to add.

With two limpers before the button raise, I think it's very resonable to expect this to be a multiway hand ... in my experience 99% of limpers won't fold to a single raise. The BB re-raise is unexpected but both the limpers came along for the ride anyway. Also since you're in the SB you're technically only calling 1.5 cold. Once the BB re-raises and it comes back to us I don't think we can fold for one additional bet to this now large pot.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:57 PM
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have to cap this preflop (the original coldcall is good, but when its back to you cappucino)

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Cappuccino is bad (as is your spelling of the word and capping it preflop) -- but then again I'm not much of a coffee drinker.

Yield to the somewhat solid BB and take a flop with K-high. You may not be good if you hit your K or Q based on the action, so your equity edge is nowhere near what you think it is.
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:00 PM
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we has a suited connector in a 5way pot. capping is awesome.
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:39 PM
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we has a suited connector in a 5way pot. capping is awesome.

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I'm glad to see that after all your time here you're still looking at just the two cards in front of you.

Edit: I guess you can count, too...
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:43 PM
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we has a suited connector in a 5way pot. capping is awesome.

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I'm glad to see that after all your time here you're still looking at just the two cards in front of you.

Edit: I guess you can count, too...

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*zing*
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:48 PM
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we has a suited connector in a 5way pot. capping is awesome.

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I'm glad to see that after all your time here you're still looking at just the two cards in front of you.

Edit: I guess you can count, too...

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yes because discussion of the size of the pot and the amount of players in is completely relevant to the 2 cards in front of me.... lol

and what do you mean by 'count'? there are 5 players in... i think you have misread the op
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:16 PM
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we has a suited connector in a 5way pot. capping is awesome.

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I'm glad to see that after all your time here you're still looking at just the two cards in front of you.

Edit: I guess you can count, too...

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yes because discussion of the size of the pot and the amount of players in is completely relevant to the 2 cards in front of me.... lol

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*sigh* I think I'd better let someone else give you the bad news.
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:24 PM
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god im so confused.... did i do somthing wong?
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