200NL: Bottom two pair from BB

[Proofrock]

I would bet/fold turn. River action depends a lot on the card.

[Brighton Belle]

I agree with CDL that getting it AI on this turn probably means I'm behind, and the majority's line of bet-fold turn sounds good to me.

If a flop bet gets flat-called though, do we think most of UTG+1's range is draws and check-call a blank river (to induce a bluff)?

CDL, what's your reasoning behind not liking the flop raise? I was hoping to take it down on the flop / force out draws / get it HU against the SB with position.

[BT2]

LOL at you making your title "200NL"

this is the no limit forum, so it is obvious that your hand will be a nl or pl hand. putting a "NL" in the title is unnecessary.

Also, 1/2 makes more sense.

[Brighton Belle]

And what makes my post special compared to the other 4 posts you've replied to this week with 200NL or 400NL in the title where you didn't feel compelled to lol? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[BT2]

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And what makes my post special compared to the other 4 posts you've replied to this week with 200NL or 400NL in the title where you didn't feel compelled to lol? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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i have not strategy advice for you on the turn because i play the other streets differently based on my style.

[CalledDownLight]

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I agree with CDL that getting it AI on this turn probably means I'm behind, and the majority's line of bet-fold turn sounds good to me.

If a flop bet gets flat-called though, do we think most of UTG+1's range is draws and check-call a blank river (to induce a bluff)?

CDL, what's your reasoning behind not liking the flop raise? I was hoping to take it down on the flop / force out draws / get it HU against the SB with position.

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hoping to take it down is not good enough logic for me. If that was your objective then you might as well have ATC. I think that your raise folds out most worse hands with the exception of some strong draws and gets called or raised by all better hands. Also, villain can raise a lot of scare card turns with the lower part of his range and turn his hand into a bluff making this line extremely -EV. Furthermore you now have no way to control the pot and are playing for stacks or not seeing a SD if that is what villain wants.

[effang]

this is a draw heavy flop. we have top and bottom, how are we not raising a flop bet here? if we just smooth call, we are giving everybody a chance to crack us. Maybe we can raise smaller since we def have a better hand than the sb, but not putting in a raise here is just asking our hand to get worked.

[kayaker]

I like your line to this point. Put $40-45 in on the turn. If he raises, fold. If he calls, c/f any scare on the river, c/c anything that looks like a blank. (There's something to be said for a blocking bet on a blank river, too, but I think that's setting yourself up for being committed.)

[r2me]

Protect against the draws. Fire 3/4 pot on turn.

[PokahPokah]

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he could have hands like JT or any two hearts. Fire and protect you hand.

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if he has j10 hes just made the nuts....

i near enough pot this turn fwiw