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Old 03-08-2007, 04:31 PM
Hindsight2020 Hindsight2020 is offline
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

i complete PF unless villain is real bad, although it does look like this might be such a villain

if villain is real bad, i'm betting the flop. he can call with a ton of worse hands, and there are lots of cards that could give him the best hand, or kill our action

turn seems fine

river is tough, because you only beat a bluff/slim value bet, but you checked to him 3 times, so both are entirely possible
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

I would check raise the flop as played id also fold the river.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

Very mixed opinion on this one.

Pre-flop - I think raising to isolate the bad player is fine here.
Flop - Think I definately should have bet it.
Turn - As played, standard I think.
River - Im beat or total air here IMO. Surely he isn't betting a lesser T for value or other smaller PP?
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

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Surely he isn't betting a lesser T for value or other smaller PP?

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i don't think that a lesser T is terribly unlikely to bet the river, since your hand looks so weak

OTOH, a lesser T probably checks the turn, a lot
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Old 03-08-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

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Very mixed opinion on this one.

Pre-flop - I think raising to isolate the bad player is fine here.
Flop - Think I definately should have bet it.
Turn - As played, standard I think.
River - Im beat or total air here IMO. Surely he isn't betting a lesser T for value or other smaller PP?

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You're giving the villain too much credit. People make really stupid "valuebets" sometimes. They bet bc you checked. They dont know why they are betting. They don't know what you have. They dont CARE what you have.

This river's gotta be a call as you played it tho. You can easily see a hand like J9o or something more ridiculous as it was played.
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Old 03-08-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

Cool. I actually lied in OP. I did call. Flush good. Didn't want to influence answers by saying I called. Nice to know my initial reaction was the correct one.
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

Looks like a simple river fold, am I missing something? Looks like he's taking the hero to value town.
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

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Looks like a simple river fold, am I missing something ? Looks like he's taking the hero to value town.

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no, you got all you need dude, including the results [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

Haha, I usually just read the first page out of laziness and assume no new info has come up. Honest to god [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - AT hits top pair, turn bare nut flush draw

Ato is cheese, just complete

bet or c/r flop dont check/call

river is an easy fold
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