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#11
11-19-2007, 04:28 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
I don't even know if I'd feel ok putting it in with J7, it's just not worth it imo because he's not making this move wiht 7x unless it's 7cXc specifically. We haven't really put anything into the pot, and he's basically hoping we have 7x with this bet so it really looks like he has QJ imo.
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#12
11-19-2007, 04:30 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
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I don't even know if I'd feel ok putting it in with J7, it's just not worth it imo because he's not making this move wiht 7x unless it's 7cXc specifically. We haven't really put anything into the pot, and he's basically hoping we have 7x with this bet so it really looks like he has QJ imo. [/ QUOTE ] That's what I was thinking. He's zeeboo-ing with either the nuts or the 2nd nuts, and it's probably a split between the two. So that puts us in a terrible spot if we have the 2nd nuts for example, because we're splitting or losing.
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#13
11-19-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
anything that beats AA
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#14
11-19-2007, 04:34 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
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That's what I was thinking. He's zeeboo-ing with either the nuts or the 2nd nuts, and it's probably a split between the two. So that puts us in a terrible spot if we have the 2nd nuts for example, because we're splitting or losing. [/ QUOTE ] You might want to look up the definition of what a Zeebo is.
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#15
11-19-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
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[ QUOTE ] That's what I was thinking. He's zeeboo-ing with either the nuts or the 2nd nuts, and it's probably a split between the two. So that puts us in a terrible spot if we have the 2nd nuts for example, because we're splitting or losing. [/ QUOTE ] You might want to look up the definition of what a Zeebo is. [/ QUOTE ] Why
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#16
11-19-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
Because there's no zeebo here.
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#17
11-19-2007, 04:46 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
misclick $14?
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#19
11-19-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
Well you are correct in that clearly nobody is going to be folding a full house here.
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#20
11-19-2007, 05:32 PM
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Re: FT200 I see what you did there
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I keep seeing plays exactly like this @ 1/2 on FT. The guy who shoved gets called often as not and often as not he's holding the nuts or damn near. At times holding like K high though the guy prone to doing this with K high isn't likely to have $375 in front of him to do it with. I can't imagine why you want to go jamming 180ish BB (assuming you just shove because if you call he's shoving any river anyway I would think) into a limped pot where the villain could have pretty much anything. I mean a random 6 beats you, even if you have the current nuts villain could be freerolling with same hand as you in clubs for a flush to beat you right? Even if the villain is the biggest idiot in the world, he limped - he could have the nuts or air and if he's prone to doing this with air, wait til you have a good hand and he does it. I'd happily shove with QcJc but I'd be ready for my head to explode if the river is a club and villain has Ac7C for the nut flush. I'd be sort of not thrilled but still shove with QJo but man would a flush annoy me. I might actually manage to fold a set here. [/ QUOTE ] this is gib, u should be ridiculously pleased to get it with qj, id get it in with j7 also and would have an actual decision with a 7 which would depend on villain. Btw, i think his range is very very heavily weighed towards some sort of monster combo draw (pair + straight + flush type draw)
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