Things it took me a while to learn part 5, 3 betting/4 betting

[jme1222]

very nice post.

[M1cKmAcK]

Great analysis and insight. Another great post that will help us all. thanks again bond.

[J.A.K.]

Very nice and much appreciated Bonds!

I suck at 3-bet sizing relative to stacks and position. Definitely an eye opener. One mistake I make as a TAG at lower limits, has been putting too much stock in the awareness of the other players. I think I'm cultivating a tight image that I can use later, only to find that CO has tape over his fold button. Again, giving players credit for noticing a tight image, when I raise (deep) with a good hand (TT-QQ/AK) and get 3-bet, I automatically see monsters and flat, when all along they "put me on big Ace" and RR with 88. I don't recall 4-betting in recent memory.

Lots of attention needed in my game and this is spot-on. Thanks again.

[BrandiFan]

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Very nice and much appreciated Bonds!

I suck at 3-bet sizing relative to stacks and position. Definitely an eye opener. One mistake I make as a TAG at lower limits, has been putting too much stock in the awareness of the other players. I think I'm cultivating a tight image that I can use later, only to find that CO has tape over his fold button. Again, giving players credit for noticing a tight image, when I raise (deep) with a good hand (TT-QQ/AK) and get 3-bet, I automatically see monsters and flat, when all along they "put me on big Ace" and RR with 88. I don't recall 4-betting in recent memory.

Lots of attention needed in my game and this is spot-on. Thanks again.

[/ QUOTE ]Brag: 4 bet bluffed twice at the same FT last week *successfully

[timmay28]

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Example: Your stack: 35 BB’s. CO’s stack: 40 BB’s. You hold AsQs in the BB.
Preflop: Folds to CO, CO raises to 3 BB’s.
Alright, now the mistake some players make here is reraising to small. At 28 BB’s going to 9 BB’s would be fine but in a spot like this you need to bloat the pot, so I recommend making it about 11 BB’s.

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Chances are I missed something here, apologies in advance. You're saying that with 35 BB's you raise it more than you would with 28 BB's? If so could you explain a little further why?

[mflip]

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Example: Your stack: 35 BB’s. CO’s stack: 40 BB’s. You hold AsQs in the BB.
Preflop: Folds to CO, CO raises to 3 BB’s.
Alright, now the mistake some players make here is reraising to small. At 28 BB’s going to 9 BB’s would be fine but in a spot like this you need to bloat the pot, so I recommend making it about 11 BB’s.

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Chances are I missed something here, apologies in advance. You're saying that with 35 BB's you raise it more than you would with 28 BB's? If so could you explain a little further why?

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He's thinking about what size the pot will be for the flop. With 28BB's, if you 3bet to 9BB's then the pot will be in the 20BB range(with antes) and you will have ~19 left which is about one PSB, with 35BB's, he's 3betting to 11BB's so that the pot will be ~24BB's so he will once again have about one PSB for the flop.

[Proofrock]

Barry -
1. Given reads and stacks, I think calling is fine here, since the Villain you described is offering you great implied odds and the players to your left are easy to abuse. A go-and-go isn't bad by any means, because you probably have the best hand, but if you have a good reason for calling instead of 3-betting then go with it.

2. I reserve ATC resteals for situations that are clearly good. As my hand strength goes up my selectivity goes down.

3. Against active MP players who are habitually raising my blind I probably wouldn't resteal ATC by default (unless there are special circumstances), but I would definitely be looking for spots to resteal with a range that's about the same as the upper 80% of my LP resteal range.

4. Suited weak aces, really aren't THAT bad. You're only about a 2 to 1 dog against any hand that has you beat except AA.