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Old 11-02-2007, 07:09 PM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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I don't hate the flop raise, its close. The pot is so big that you dont even want him to peel with a pocket pair or decent backdoor draws. Even AJ would be nice to get out.

As played, I think the river check-raise totally kicks ass because Ax is a huge part of his range.

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I dont really mind KK calling this flop

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assuming that KK is only gong to put in 1sb UI, I think KK is totally correct to call, given its implied odds on spiking a set.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:30 PM
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If BTN has KK and you beat sb 60% of the time, he has just 1.2 outs against you. You save 2.5% of the pot by raising and not 4.5%, so it's something like 0.6 small bet in this case.

Calling is correct for BTN but raising probably don't save enough money, because sb can 3 bet and BTN can beat you.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:31 PM
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I like river.Mostly because I always check raise river in this spot [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img].
As I said in a previous post.Value bets against good players are tricky and villain should think twice before betting but generally it is easy to induce a value bet from a villain with a PP. And often our CR is interpreted as a bluff and gets a call.
If he has nothing we can induce a bluff also by checking.But he canīt be so bad can he?
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:37 PM
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gosh, i think it's pretty damn close to perfect.

flop raise is fine, let's not overthink this guys.

river is close only because your (crappy) read on him indicates 7xs might be in his range. Against majority of online players it is expert though.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:07 PM
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Put me in the love camp with Apanagae and Vma. Altho Apa only expressed his love for the river


With the moron behind us there is plenty of value in a raise as SB gets odds to call with his pp's.

Also. SB should have a huge range if he sees us a TAGgish and and Button as a LAG fish
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:18 PM
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does non-hate=love?

if so u forgot me!!
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:34 PM
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does non-hate=love?

if so u forgot me!!

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sorry [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:48 PM
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I wouldnt raise the flop if button was decent, but I thought he would be calling with such a huge part of his range. I hated it when he 3bet, but when he checked the turn I was pretty sure he had a scared A and was trying to sd cheap. I think it sucks bad if he checks behind and I probably shouldve had a better read before trying this play on him, but I just used the standard lagfish read and it worked out.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:21 AM
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why would he check Ax on the turn?
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:23 AM
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why would he check Ax on the turn?

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when he checked the turn I was pretty sure he had a scared A and was trying to sd cheap

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