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Old 07-03-2007, 10:03 AM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default Re: River play with overpair

bet-fold like $27 plz.

check-call sucks, he's not betting Jx and there's no hands he can bluff with.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: River play with overpair

i understand that, but hes still calling with flush/ reraising which leads to a sticky situation, why not just c/c with no real reads on villan and take it from there
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: River play with overpair

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i understand that, but hes still calling with flush/ reraising which leads to a sticky situation, why not just c/c with no real reads on villan and take it from there

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If we check river and our villain pushes it in... do you call?
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: River play with overpair

Bet/fold is dumb with villain having only a psb left.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: River play with overpair

I don't like check-calling as he will bet flushes and JT and probably check behind with things that we beat (eg. Jx). Stack sizes are awkward with him having just over a pot sized bet left. I don't mind pushing, he'll call with any jack. Bet-folding for $25ish would better if he had a bigger stack but maybe it's still fine. Check-folding is not that bad an option since river card sucks. I probably push it anyway.
IMO push>bet-fold>>check-fold>>>check-call
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: River play with overpair

yeah i see, im making a huge donk move against a tight player, i just don't see this guy making any strong moves on the river
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: River play with overpair

Bet-fold is so gross when there is ANY chance he will bluff or even value push worse hands. Just push. He will definitely call with good jacks and if he made his flush or two pair on the river, move on to the next hand.

The reason I don't check/fold is because I think jacks are a huge part of his range, with the stats you posted. Of course any suited cards are as well so it's really close between pushing and check/folding.

I'd say: Pushing > Check/folding >>> everything else.
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:40 PM
Jaconda78 Jaconda78 is offline
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Default Re: River play with overpair

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Bet more on the flop (8) and turn (24) - you want to be able to push any blank river without having to make an overbet. As played c/c any reasonable riverbet (i'd probably fold if villain bets more than 30).

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I disagree. I don't like a line of bet pot bet pot bet pot - you end up with huge pots where you have no clue where you stand half the time. I think hero's bet sizes were fine here. I like either a c/c or c/f here, depending on the size of the bet (if he bets more than 2/3 pot, I think you have to fold here more often than not - he could have something like baby 2 pair, JT, or the flush. If he makes a small donk bet, I think you are getting the odds to make the call).
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:38 PM
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bet-fold like $27 plz.

check-call sucks, he's not betting Jx and there's no hands he can bluff with.

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I think this is the best line (I just wanted to be sure I wasn't being reuslts oriented).

Results:

I check/call his $25 and get shown 66 for turned trips.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: River play with overpair

I check-call i smell that were beat.
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