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Old 10-16-2007, 05:46 PM
yegon yegon is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

I folded KK once in my life in a similar situation

FR, action before me limp - raise - reraise - AI

I folded, limper and raiser folded reraiser called with AK, the other guy showed QQ

I'll never fold KK again for under 200xBB pf
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

Hmm, what do you guys think of a smaller 4-bet and folding to a push? Like $18. And if they call than push any non-ace flop. Is this a v exploitable play?
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

yeah the ONLY spot where I might fold KK pf is when a fish ( who I have stats for ) limp-reraises me from EP - that line has been aces since I started playing and I really doubt it is going to change any time soon.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

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Hmm, what do you guys think of a smaller 4-bet and folding to a push? Like $18. And if they call than push any non-ace flop. Is this a v exploitable play?

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And if ace comes on the flop? check\fold?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

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yeah the ONLY spot where I might fold KK pf is when a fish ( who I have stats for ) limp-reraises me from EP - that line has been aces since I started playing and I really doubt it is going to change any time soon.

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fish have been doing this to me with 77+, AQ+ and I played a guy who was so fond of this "move" that he used it 4 times during 200 hands and crowned it with playing this way with QJs from the CO [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I mostly see this play in shorstack tournies. Actually I have yet to see this done with AA/KK at NL50 (18k hands played do far) - guess people are afraid it gets limped all around after them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

As I said, might fold and even then I really doubt I could do it, perhaps if I have a note and a lot of hands on him that would be easier.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

very very std
if he has AA 90% of the time you have to call.
if he has AA 100% it's close
nh sir.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: KK in a big preflop pot 90% possibly vs AA

I will give a custom title to whomever can give me the sweetest image I can post in KK PF threads.

It must say

DONT EVER FOLD KK PF FOR 100BBs.
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