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#11
08-07-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: Villains turn action does not compute
River range - 87 (trying to push you off a ten) 88 (if he limps the button, probably not) 89, A8, low hearts (could be paired or unpaired), QT-AT.
Don't think that I missed any. 
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#12
08-07-2007, 05:28 PM
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Re: Villains turn action does not compute
After villain raises the flop, but takes a free card on the turn, I put him on draws a lot. I can beat all the draws on the river. He might have TP or something, but I don't think he would value bet it when checked to on the river, because he isn't getting paid off by much that he beats. I think he would have taken his showdown value with such hands. So I think my check induced a bluff from a busted draw. Because of this, I called his river bet.
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#13
08-07-2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: Villains turn action does not compute
You can't beat all the draws on the river, especially when any 8 makes an open ender on the flop.
Kind like the thought process, but on this particular board you're behind too much of his 'bluffing' range to call.
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#16
08-07-2007, 05:40 PM
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Re: Villains turn action does not compute
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He might have TP or something, but I don't think he would value bet it when checked to on the river, because he isn't getting paid off by much that he beats. [/ QUOTE ] your thought process is correct, but people who use this fishy line don't realize it. They use argument i quoted before for why they should raise the flop, then once the "pot control" the turn they just figure a pair is probably worth a small bet on the river, they don't really think too much about what you have, or what worse hands can call them.
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#17
08-07-2007, 05:42 PM
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Re: Villains turn action does not compute
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If he has an 8 he has showdown value and doesn't need to bluff [/ QUOTE ] How does 8-high have showdown value? 7-8-9-T doesn't make a straight. Or a pair. Or anythying, really. Do you guys mean a T? Anyway, fold, because c/ring this river is usually going to elicit an "O RLY?" and a call. I guess it's sweet if you think his range is bluffs, because you can't call, he might be bluffing with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], lol.
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#18
08-07-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: Villains turn action does not compute
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[ QUOTE ] If he has an 8 he has showdown value and doesn't need to bluff [/ QUOTE ] How does 8-high have showdown value? 7-8-9-T doesn't make a straight. Or a pair. Or anythying, really. Do you guys mean a T? Anyway, fold, because c/ring this river is usually going to elicit an "O RLY?" and a call. I guess it's sweet if you think his range is bluffs, because you can't call, he might be bluffing with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], lol. [/ QUOTE ] nah I meant 88.
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