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lol. Now I know how the Muslim's feel when a few douchebags claim to speak for all Muslims. Please don't lump all "Christians" in with these tards.

I was a minister at a non-denom church until about a year ago and I could give two $hits whether or not the 10 commandments is displayed.

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And we are surprised that you aren't still a preacher???

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Ha! I was thinking the same thing. Never met a preacher that used the word "tards" (or douchebag for that matter, but I don't find that offensive).

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The latter was in response to a comment, Christians are NOT under the Old Testament, so, then, what about the Christians demanding displaying the 10 Commandments?


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I haven't read anything in the link yet.

While I don't agree with some of FoF's weird views, I wanted to point out the following:

While Christians are not 'under' the old testament in the current age, nine out of ten of the old commandments were reiterated as part of the new covenant.

[oldbookguy]

Though many, myself included, main stream Christians understand this, here is the reply from a FoF poster, interesting and I add emphasis in bold areas:

Newly confused, I can see where the confusion comes in and I will try to wade in here. When Jesus came, he simplified the Ten Commandments by saying that there were two. They were to love God above all- the first commandment and love your neighbor as yourself. If, we as a world followed those two commands of love, we wouldn't need the others. If you loved you wouldn't murder, lie or cheat or hurt other people. I know this is a fairly simple explanation for a seemingly harder question. Now, if only we could just love. That really is the key. The Ten Commandments will alway be a good way to guide us. But if we all followed what Jesus said, this world would be a better place. Mark 12 29-31. No greater commands than these.


beliver - Sep 14, 2007 04:36:05 AM

So, seems we are down to two commandments.

Actually, my point was focused on the WONDER poster and the push by the Far right to post the 10 commandments in all public / governmental places and the posters statement of not being under the Old Testament, the duality of the position, no OT, except we want OT, sometimes.

obg

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Though many, myself included, main stream Christians understand this, here is the reply from a FoF poster, interesting and I add emphasis in bold areas:

Newly confused, I can see where the confusion comes in and I will try to wade in here. When Jesus came, he simplified the Ten Commandments by saying that there were two. They were to love God above all- the first commandment and love your neighbor as yourself. If, we as a world followed those two commands of love, we wouldn't need the others. If you loved you wouldn't murder, lie or cheat or hurt other people. I know this is a fairly simple explanation for a seemingly harder question. Now, if only we could just love. That really is the key. The Ten Commandments will alway be a good way to guide us. But if we all followed what Jesus said, this world would be a better place. Mark 12 29-31. No greater commands than these.


beliver - Sep 14, 2007 04:36:05 AM

So, seems we are down to two commandments.

Actually, my point was focused on the WONDER poster and the push by the Far right to post the 10 commandments in all public / governmental places and the posters statement of not being under the Old Testament, the duality of the position, no OT, except we want OT, sometimes.

obg

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Im a Matthew Christian I guess, a bit of Mark. Matthew does
restate the Ten Commandments in his text word for word, and in the Sermon on the Mount, don't forget Christ said he did not abate one whit of the Law from the Old Testament. You can take that Sermon and you have all you need. I think your FoF guy when God says He gave the law so that ye may love one another(somewhere in Acts i think), but thats omitting its purpose. Namely, we don't live up to being made in God's image so we need some help. Those [censored] forget how hard a religion Christianity is, and only care about enforcing some sort of surface Christianity, not a genuine heartfelt internal one.
Sort of an Inquisition style one where sin is permitted and overlooked as long as you follow the forms laid out by the religious powers. Sham, fake, moneygrubbing whores pretty much sums up Focus on the Family. I think they joke about what sheep they have sway over and how much $$$$ its worth when no one is looking except their boy whores and coke dealer friends. FoF is a BUSINESS. Remember that when you read what they say, its so much easier to comprehend.

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Those [censored] forget how hard a religion Christianity is, and only care about enforcing some sort of surface Christianity, not a genuine heartfelt internal one.
Sort of an Inquisition style one where sin is permitted and overlooked as long as you follow the forms laid out by the religious powers. Sham, fake, moneygrubbing whores pretty much sums up Focus on the Family. I think they joke about what sheep they have sway over and how much $$$$ its worth when no one is looking except their boy whores and coke dealer friends. FoF is a BUSINESS. Remember that when you read what they say, its so much easier to comprehend.

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This is more like it!