Printing money at bodog - KTo

[martybonus]

wow, i'm surprised to hear this would be a PFR, even against a single caller.

Perhaps I rely too heavily on the charts in SSHE.

Is this really a strong enough hand to raise PF with? Presumably only against a single v loose caller and the blinds, no?

[Todd]

38% is 5% more than 33%
54% is 4% more than 50%

So, maybe you are at a bigger advantage over random expectation, if that is what he is saying/

[Befolder]

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Doesn't even matter if MP is unknown, this is a very straightforward preflop raise.

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This advice is killing me in real life. I go from limping with crap hands like KTo to trying to convince myself to raise with crap hands.

From trying to follow some semblance of SSHE to ignoring it in favor of game texture and raising any sooted Ace in MP3, CO and Btn after one limper.

It is a puzzle to me. But I am having a poker crisis after last nite.

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Todd, this is a raise far more because of the player that limped, than the cards we hold.

It might be difficult to put together right now because you're perhaps in a stage that has more important things to work on. Sometimes I think that those of us who went through the stages occasionally give more advanced advice than a poster is ready to hear. I think that's why I often right posts like this that say, "Keep what is being said in mind, but sometimes a player is working on too many concepts at a time."

That being said, raising in these types of situations very often leads to easier postflop play w/ fewer opponents, thus granting you decisions that aren't so damn tough when the population of China isn't in the hand with you.

Basically, I found that once I started raising more, poker became far easier to learn...and quicker as well.

[milesdyson]

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wow, i'm surprised to hear this would be a PFR, even against a single caller.

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As opposed to what, more callers? It would become less and less a PFR as you add additional callers.

[martybonus]

that's what I mean. I didn't think it would be strong enough to pre-flop raise except as a blind steal.

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wow, i'm surprised to hear this would be a PFR, even against a single caller.

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As opposed to what, more callers? It would become less and less a PFR as you add additional callers.

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My previous post the tl;dr version. Miles' version, much more succint and to the point.

[milesdyson]

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38% is 5% more than 33%
54% is 4% more than 50%

So, maybe you are at a bigger advantage over random expectation, if that is what he is saying/

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Pot is way bigger when we PFR, and we realize much more of that equity by having the initiative.

[hizo]

It's a raise because
a) you want to isolate the bad player and get it HU if possible.
b) you want to buy the button
c) KTo plays the worst in 3-4 handed pots

err all of the above basically mean the same thing.

[martybonus]

interesting, but counterintuitive to me.

thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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interesting, but counterintuitive to me.

thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hizo actually had perfect reasoning. You'll get it once you get more hands.

A very basic way to look at it is multiway hands versus non-multiway hands. An unsuited hand is not go good w/ lots of competitors.