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#11
07-12-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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Yea. The minimum total you should double with is a 9 and thats only with the dealer shows a 4,5, or 6. [/ QUOTE ] Doubling is fun, though. -McGee 
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#12
07-12-2007, 03:04 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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[ QUOTE ] I am a dealer and ive seen a lot of bad BJ players but a couple of funny things i saw were once when i first started dealing there was an asian lady playing who was about 80 and spoke no english at least i thought. About 6 hrs into my shift she was still there playing and still hadnt said a word when a very cocky young kid sits down and starts to play. He gets 20 and he puts up money to split his tens against my 5 .All of a sudden she yells out if you had a 10 inch d**k would you cut it in half. I almost pissed myself i was laughing so hard The other was a few years ago im dealing and a player comes up and bets a 5K chip behind another persons 100$ bet. (Backline bet we call it). I proced to deal and give them a 20. Now the guy in the front controls the hand and looks at the other and says you either give me 2500 or im going to hit this. The guy in the back starts to freak out and says im down 100k and this is my last bet and youre trying to pull this [censored]. He says yep. The other guy says F-Off you aint getting [censored] from me so the guy with the 100$ bet hits and breaks. They start to go at it more when the guy with the 5K bet takes a swing at the other and misses of course. The other then picks up a glass ash tray on the table and procedes to hit the guy right in the head knocking him out. Security comes along with the EMT and takes them both away. [/ QUOTE ] two great stories [/ QUOTE ] yea, more of these please.
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#14
07-12-2007, 03:30 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
My story: I'm in the last seat, and I get A3 vs 6. The count is super-bad, so I don't double. I hit and get a ten, and I stand on 14. Dealer has 16, catches a perfect card and beats everybody. It happens, especially when the count is bad.
Old Asian guy starts yelling at me for taking the dealer's "bust" card. "I had a four!", I protested. He didn't want to hear it. He simply repeated his opinion that I cost the whole table money. "You're saying I should've stood with a four?" Now it was funny, because he wanted to be mad at me, but couldn't bring himself to say, "Yes, you should stand with a four." Instead of yelling at me, and he turned his back to me, and grumbled ABOUT me to the other players. /// An awful lot of posts in this thread about "always double on this" and "never double on that", and none of them mention THE COUNT. [ QUOTE ] doubling 7 on ANY dealer upcard using ANY number of decks is not profitable. a starting hand of hard 7 in any blackjack game is extremely marginal, and doubling (regardless of upcard or table conditions) would be solidly -EV in the long run. [/ QUOTE ] How about a single deck game, about halfway through the deck, and count of about +20? We know that every card left in the deck is a ten or an ace. "Solidly -EV in the long run"???
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#15
07-12-2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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[ QUOTE ] Yea. The minimum total you should double with is a 9 and thats only with the dealer shows a 4,5, or 6. [/ QUOTE ] that's not enough information to use as gospel. in an old school single deck game (BJ pays 3:2), you double 8 vs. dealer 5 or 6, and double 9 against 2 through 6. typical 6-8 deck shoe game, double 9 against 3/4/5/6 are all +EV. best strategy is to generate the chart for the exact game conditions that you're going to play, before sitting down and making your first bet. [/ QUOTE ] Meh, if you are going to that level of difficulty, just learn to count. The index for doubling 8 vs 6 is +6, I believe (Using hi-low, double deck, H17). Personally, I find it amusing when people believe that the playing strategy of another player impacts their results. I hear comments like "you took the dealers bust card" from about half the players at an average table. When the "normal" players are this ignorant, it is sort of anti-climactic to talk about the "worst" players. I once stood on a hard 6 versus a dealer 6 up. The only other player at the table went ballistic calling me a moron. Funniest part is that the casino manager booted me about 15 minutes later because my game was "too strong for them". Too bad he didn't ask for the opinion of my table mate. It could have saved me from my 15th back-off.
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#16
07-12-2007, 05:51 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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I once stood on a hard 6 versus a dealer 6 up. [/ QUOTE ] There's an index for that?
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#17
07-12-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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[ QUOTE ] I once stood on a hard 6 versus a dealer 6 up. [/ QUOTE ] There's an index for that? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, its called the "I'm acting last and the 3rd/4th or 5th card coming out of the shoe is an A and I'm going to make damn sure it lands on one of the 4 $1,000 hands I'm about to spread next round" index.
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#18
07-12-2007, 08:19 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I once stood on a hard 6 versus a dealer 6 up. [/ QUOTE ] There's an index for that? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, its called the "I'm acting last and the 3rd/4th or 5th card coming out of the shoe is an A and I'm going to make damn sure it lands on one of the 4 $1,000 hands I'm about to spread next round" index. [/ QUOTE ] Correct. Good to see that we have other AP's on this board.
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#19
07-12-2007, 11:13 PM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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The other was a few years ago im dealing and a player comes up and bets a 5K chip behind another persons 100$ bet. (Backline bet we call it). I proced to deal and give them a 20. Now the guy in the front controls the hand and looks at the other and says you either give me 2500 or im going to hit this. The guy in the back starts to freak out and says im down 100k and this is my last bet and youre trying to pull this [censored]. He says yep. The other guy says F-Off you aint getting [censored] from me so the guy with the 100$ bet hits and breaks. They start to go at it more when the guy with the 5K bet takes a swing at the other and misses of course. The other then picks up a glass ash tray on the table and procedes to hit the guy right in the head knocking him out. Security comes along with the EMT and takes them both away. [/ QUOTE ] wow that is a really amazing story
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#20
07-13-2007, 12:14 AM
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Re: Worst blackjack player you\'ve ever seen?
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[ QUOTE ] The other was a few years ago im dealing and a player comes up and bets a 5K chip behind another persons 100$ bet. (Backline bet we call it). I proced to deal and give them a 20. Now the guy in the front controls the hand and looks at the other and says you either give me 2500 or im going to hit this. The guy in the back starts to freak out and says im down 100k and this is my last bet and youre trying to pull this [censored]. He says yep. The other guy says F-Off you aint getting [censored] from me so the guy with the 100$ bet hits and breaks. They start to go at it more when the guy with the 5K bet takes a swing at the other and misses of course. The other then picks up a glass ash tray on the table and procedes to hit the guy right in the head knocking him out. Security comes along with the EMT and takes them both away. [/ QUOTE ] wow that is a really amazing story [/ QUOTE ] This either happens more than one would think, or a lot of people are out there claiming this one story. There's a lot of good stories at Casinodealers.net if you like this sort of stuff.
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