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Old 11-09-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: With dead money is this is a +ev call?

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I'm on Stars and there's no "Pot" button and I don't know how to quickly calculate what a pot size raise is. I'm assuming that's what you're suggesting my 3-bet should be.

How is it calculated?



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Old 11-09-2007, 06:20 AM
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I tried running this but i can't get it installed. I'm not a computer wiz and it seemed a bit more complicated than just downloading a simple program.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: With dead money is this is a +ev call?

Without knowing this is AA/KK a huge amount of the time, I will try to get it all in with AKs because normally going to be either me 3betting and them shoving like here or me raising and getting 3bet then shoving. Especially the latter where you have FE instead of calling. It plays better than QQ preflop IMO. Also, just for balancing purposes since you rarely get AKs, about same as AA or KK.

I'll be more cautious with AKo in a tighter game where I suspect the 3bet/shove ranges are small simply because it comes around a lot more and cannot be used for balance. I'll still shove with it most of the time, just less calling.

Is this standard, fine, w/e?
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: With dead money is this is a +ev call?

if the guy a) 4 bets 2.5x our raise, or b) pots it are we shoving?
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: With dead money is this is a +ev call?

wtf i snap call this like at least 60% (fold 40%) and don't even think about it with no reads. i only fold this with reads.

the percentages are irrelivant i'm just saying that with no reads i call somteimes and ifold sometimes but i call more often because aks is a huge hand.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:19 AM
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wtf i snap call this like at least 60% (fold 40%) and don't even think about it with no reads. i only fold this with reads.

the percentages are irrelivant i'm just saying that with no reads i call somteimes and ifold sometimes but i call more often because aks is a huge hand.

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unfortunately this makes no sense. you should be calling or folding 100%, whichever is correct.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:20 AM
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wtf i snap call this like at least 60% (fold 40%) and don't even think about it with no reads. i only fold this with reads.

the percentages are irrelivant i'm just saying that with no reads i call somteimes and ifold sometimes but i call more often because aks is a huge hand.

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unfortunately this makes no sense. you should be calling or folding 100%, whichever is correct.

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no because i know that calling is a high variance decision and i may desire a lower variance spot.


also lol at u thinking there is ever a 100% correct way to play. u must be new to this.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: With dead money is this is a +ev call?

IMO calling without reads sucks horribly. It's -ev against TT+,AK and assuming an unknown is 4bet shoving wider than that is pretty terrible IMO. With reads it could be a call.



And yea, genius55, against an unknown its either right to call or fold (I think fold))...100% of the time (assuming same stack sizes every time.) DUCY
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:25 AM
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IMO calling without reads sucks horribly. It's -ev against TT+,AK and assuming an unknown is 4bet shoving wider than that is pretty terrible IMO. With reads it could be a call.



And yea, genius55, against an unknown its either right to call or fold...100% of the time. DUCY

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Old 11-09-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: With dead money is this is a +ev call?

It's also a known fact that unkowns have huge ranges in Micro NL including hands like a4 offsuit and trash like that.
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