sorta deep vs Catcher333....(600nl)

[creative]

shove all 3

jj is the only question mark

[tuckercat]

fold jj. shove other two. standard.

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

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fold jj. shove other two. standard.

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if shoving the other 2 are profitable wouldnt it be plus ev to shove jacks if this wrre true (if we fold JJ its because we think he has a set or an overpair most likely, and if this is true 9 8 hh doesnt have that much equity in the hand and its probably not getting folded if our assumptions are true)? Well i disagree anyway from my estimate of playing a little with catcher i think that shoving all three of these would be plus ev in the long run because his range could be wide. Also is important to realize that if he doesnt slowplay overpairs be4 the flop JJ and AA are he same hand here and we should fold or shove both (or call with the intention of calling the river if we think it makes us more money). Do we know more imformation about this specifically, how he plays his big pairs preflop? I think you should shove the 89 probably, and probably the jacks. Call with the aces most of the time but sometimes 4 bet for value if youve been really lag.
Edit: just noticed 2 heats on the flop 4 betting aces for value makes a lot more sense.

[illuminati]

AJ,

He can have KQh and be a fave over the jacks. JJ doesn't equal AA here at all imo.

Edit: Also QQ/KK

[jsnipes28]

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AJ,

He can have KQh and be a fave over the jacks. JJ doesn't equal AA here at all imo.



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good pt, wouldnt want to run into KQhh here, damn that sure would suck.

[illuminati]

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AJ,

He can have KQh and be a fave over the jacks. JJ doesn't equal AA here at all imo.



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good pt, wouldnt want to run into KQhh here, damn that sure would suck.

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Sarcasm?

[BalugaWhale]

shove all three.

[catcher193]

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AJ,

He can have KQh and be a fave over the jacks. JJ doesn't equal AA here at all imo.



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good pt, wouldnt want to run into KQhh here, damn that sure would suck.

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Sarcasm?

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obv

[Reef]

min 3bet all 3 to induce min 4 bet so that we can min 5 bet

[skier_5]

this deep, how often is catcher raising a draw (and exposing himself to a shove) vs flat calling? I def think his range is more polarized here to sets and complete air than it would be 100bb deep. So i like a call.