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06-19-2007, 11:46 AM
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Re: AJ and lot of action
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Villian is unknow $1/$2 Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls. Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.5SB, 3 players) SB bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls. Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.25BB, 2 players) SB bets, Hero ? Calldown or fold?? Is the flopplay standard? [/ QUOTE ] fold the turn 
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#12
06-20-2007, 12:03 AM
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Re: AJ and lot of action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If the turn was a none King then it would have turned it into a call. Right? [/ QUOTE ] No. SB usually has a big pair here and you are not getting the right odds to draw. [/ QUOTE ] Niediam is on drugs. If the turn is a blank, yes you should call down. [/ QUOTE ] You really think villian is going to have an overplayed AK that often? [/ QUOTE ] If the villain 3bet preflop and bet/called the flop and then donked a blank turn card, I will have no idea what he has. If he had QQ-AA, 3betting the flop or check/raising the turn would seem like the most natural play. Becuz this line is so peculiar, I think a calldown is necessary. Lets also not forget that this is 1-2 and many people dont know what the [censored] theyre doing at this level. So when someone takes a strange line that makes no sense and I have top pair top kicker on a jack high board I'm not folding. I believe we'll see some badly played lesser hand often enough to profit from this calldown.
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#13
06-20-2007, 01:14 AM
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Re: AJ and lot of action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If the turn was a none King then it would have turned it into a call. Right? [/ QUOTE ] No. SB usually has a big pair here and you are not getting the right odds to draw. [/ QUOTE ] Niediam is on drugs. If the turn is a blank, yes you should call down. [/ QUOTE ] You really think villian is going to have an overplayed AK that often? [/ QUOTE ] If the villain 3bet preflop and bet/called the flop and then donked a blank turn card, I will have no idea what he has. If he had QQ-AA, 3betting the flop or check/raising the turn would seem like the most natural play. Becuz this line is so peculiar, I think a calldown is necessary. Lets also not forget that this is 1-2 and many people dont know what the [censored] theyre doing at this level. So when someone takes a strange line that makes no sense and I have top pair top kicker on a jack high board I'm not folding. I believe we'll see some badly played lesser hand often enough to profit from this calldown. [/ QUOTE ] Villian 3bet the flop. If villian just called flop and donked I'd call down.
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#14
06-20-2007, 01:42 AM
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Re: AJ and lot of action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If the turn was a none King then it would have turned it into a call. Right? [/ QUOTE ] No. SB usually has a big pair here and you are not getting the right odds to draw. [/ QUOTE ] Niediam is on drugs. If the turn is a blank, yes you should call down. [/ QUOTE ] You really think villian is going to have an overplayed AK that often? [/ QUOTE ] If the villain 3bet preflop and bet/called the flop and then donked a blank turn card, I will have no idea what he has. If he had QQ-AA, 3betting the flop or check/raising the turn would seem like the most natural play. Becuz this line is so peculiar, I think a calldown is necessary. Lets also not forget that this is 1-2 and many people dont know what the [censored] theyre doing at this level. So when someone takes a strange line that makes no sense and I have top pair top kicker on a jack high board I'm not folding. I believe we'll see some badly played lesser hand often enough to profit from this calldown. [/ QUOTE ] Villian 3bet the flop. If villian just called flop and donked I'd call down. [/ QUOTE ] Oh nevermind, then I dont think youre on drugs [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I still dont think the turn is a clear fold if the villain 3bets the flop and bets a blank turn. In fact I think its still a calldown at this level against an unknown. Its a very marginal calldown but one that I think will still turn a profit as we will have 5 outs most of the time were losing and we'll run into a retardedly played lower pocket pair/AK/KJ/some other weird nothing hand often enough to make a crying call on the river profitable.
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