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Old 07-26-2007, 01:35 PM
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someone troll me please

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yeah just hire fees ldo
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:46 PM
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<3 ramana
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:53 PM
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you can go ahead and post your losing hands, and we can analyze them here...

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Well there would be alot of hands posted. I was hoping for more of a one on one analysis from a very experienced player. Maybe I should take this to a different forum.

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Sounds like you are looking for some in-depth coaching. I know there are some people on here who do that, not sure how much they charge though. Maybe do a google search or a search on here for "poker coach"?
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:57 PM
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please post hands on here or links to pokerhand if you post them... posting one hand at a time would be easier to analyse
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:16 PM
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I must warn that there may be severe tilt in a few of these so constructive criticism please. I already know how bad I suck. I guess if you want to comment on a hand quote it and analyze. If this is too much let me know, I can just link all the hands to somewhere else....thanks in advance...


******* Hand 1 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $70.75
CO: $19
Button: $116.85
SB: $35.25
sluggger5x: $66

Pre-flop: (5 players) sluggger5x is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $1.5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $4.5</font>, Button calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $6</font>, Button calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $24</font>, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises all-in $55.5</font>, Button calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($132.25, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $132.25)


Results:
Final pot: $132.25


******* Hand 2 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $74.05
CO: $19
sluggger5x: $49.25
SB: $131.90
BB: $31.20

Pre-flop: (4 players) sluggger5x is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $4.5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $12.5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises all-in $49.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $18.7</font>.
Uncalled bets: $18.05 returned to sluggger5x.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $64.15)


Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $64.15)


River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $64.15)


Results:
Final pot: $3.5


******* Hand 3 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $59.70
UTG+1: $24.20
sluggger5x: $58.10
Button: $102.40
SB: $31.50
BB: $56.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) sluggger5x is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $2</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $2.5</font>, Button calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $7.5</font>, Button calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($24.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $12.5</font>, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: $49.75


******* Hand 4 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $50.75
sluggger5x: $61.15
CO: $60.20
Button: $37.15
SB: $48.75
BB: $47

Pre-flop: (6 players) sluggger5x is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $2</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $4.5</font>, CO calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($13.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $8</font>, CO calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($29.75, 2 players)
sluggger5x checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $16</font>, sluggger5x calls.

Results:
Final pot: $61.75


******* Hand 5 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $23.50
UTG+1: $8.50
CO: $38.35
Button: $50.95
sluggger5x: $59.60
BB: $53.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) sluggger5x is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $2.5</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $5</font>, Button calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($15.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $14</font>, Button calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($43.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $30.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $29.45</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1.05 returned to sluggger5x.

Results:
Final pot: $102.4


******* Hand 6 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $143.15
sluggger5x: $57.15
CO: $50
Button: $14.25
SB: $60.05
BB: $128.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) sluggger5x is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $6.5</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $20</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises all-in $57.15</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($116.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $116.55)


Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($116.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $116.55)


River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($116.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $116.55)


Results:
Final pot: $116.55


******* Hand 7 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
sluggger5x: $14.25
SB: $60.05
BB: $128.7
sluggger5x: $69.40
SB: $34.20
BB: $82.45

Pre-flop: (3 players) sluggger5x is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $2</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $6</font>, sluggger5x calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $10</font>, SB calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($36.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $16.2</font>, sluggger5x calls.

Results:
Final pot: $68.9


******* Hand 8 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $62.15
CO: $41.75
sluggger5x: $128.7
Button: $34.65
SB: $55.50
sluggger5x: $58.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) sluggger5x is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $2.5</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($7.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $5</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $54.65</font>, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x calls all-in $40.75</font>.
Uncalled bets: $3.9 returned to UTG.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($119, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $119)


Results:
Final pot: $119


******* Hand 9 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $39.90
CO: $55.15
Button: $46.25
sluggger5x: $128.7
SB: $43.90
sluggger5x: $50

Pre-flop: (5 players) sluggger5x is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $3.5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises all-in $50</font>, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($100.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $100.75)


Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($100.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $100.75)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($100.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $100.75)


Results:
Final pot: $100.75
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: downswing, looking for help....

going all in PF with JJ,AQ is pretty nasty even going AI with AK is not good...stop going all in preflop unless u have aces or kings maybe queens (even queens are usually a fold to a 4bet) ...ppl dont 4bet with garbage and these hands dont do to well with what ppl 4bet with preflop at 50 nl
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:37 PM
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hand 5 c/c that river, i fold to a push-- hes not pushing a missed draw for all this chips on that board and that misraise in hand 1 screams trouble, what kind of player is villan, he could have easily hit a set and your stacking him-- but way to agressive vs. UTG raisers and BB reraise, anytime that happens BB almost always has kk or aa
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:44 PM
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Most of these don't look very spewy, except for the pf JJ and AQ hands. That, and the 99 overpair one -- that's pretty thin.

I notice that you're oop in almost every hand post flop, and that you didn't include reads on any of your players. Reads would have made almost any of these calls correct (I'm thinking the ones with turn action or the pf ones, JJ/AQ/AK) or incorrect.

Slugger, how's your game selection? In the cooler hand you had against me you jumped in... then right out, too. Are you staying at the tables long enough to get a feel for the fishy/non-fishy ones? Are you getting off tables when you have tough people right on your left (they don't have to be great to make leaving a good idea.)
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:53 PM
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Most of these don't look very spewy, except for the pf JJ and AQ hands. That, and the 99 overpair one -- that's pretty thin.

I notice that you're oop in almost every hand post flop, and that you didn't include reads on any of your players. Reads would have made almost any of these calls correct (I'm thinking the ones with turn action or the pf ones, JJ/AQ/AK) or incorrect.

Slugger, how's your game selection? In the cooler hand you had against me you jumped in... then right out, too. Are you staying at the tables long enough to get a feel for the fishy/non-fishy ones? Are you getting off tables when you have tough people right on your left (they don't have to be great to make leaving a good idea.)

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Typically my gameplan is to find the tables with the highest avg. pot and a players/flop above 40%. I usually stay at a table for half an hour at least and leave if it seems to be a rockgarden. Lately after about an hour of play I get frustrated and tilty and just quit; come back an a few hours later and repeat the cycle. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I haven't been able to use AceHud because of the software lag on FTP. Typically I play 6-8 tables. I really struggle with game selection and finding people who I can beat easily while multitabling.


Also, would anyone be intrested in seeing my position stats???
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:05 PM
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Most of these don't look very spewy, except for the pf JJ and AQ hands. That, and the 99 overpair one -- that's pretty thin.

I notice that you're oop in almost every hand post flop, and that you didn't include reads on any of your players. Reads would have made almost any of these calls correct (I'm thinking the ones with turn action or the pf ones, JJ/AQ/AK) or incorrect.

Slugger, how's your game selection? In the cooler hand you had against me you jumped in... then right out, too. Are you staying at the tables long enough to get a feel for the fishy/non-fishy ones? Are you getting off tables when you have tough people right on your left (they don't have to be great to make leaving a good idea.)

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Typically my gameplan is to find the tables with the highest avg. pot and a players/flop above 40%. I usually stay at a table for half an hour at least and leave if it seems to be a rockgarden. Lately after about an hour of play I get frustrated and tilty and just quit; come back an a few hours later and repeat the cycle. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I haven't been able to use AceHud because of the software lag on FTP. Typically I play 6-8 tables. I really struggle with game selection and finding people who I can beat easily while multitabling.


Also, would anyone be intrested in seeing my position stats???

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use the RT hud , its free and it works fine with FT ..(u can find it in the softawre forum) ...also if your struggling with your game , play less tables ,,,playing 6-8 tbles w/o a HUD is suicide IMO

edit// if you dont datamine , u should it rly helps with game selection ...
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