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[sharpie]

He doesn't like the raise or fold mentality. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Shillx]

RIO shouldn't be the main concern. Flat out being smoked should be. What are you hoping the PFR has...QJ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

[tyler_cracker]

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He doesn't like the raise or fold mentality. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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i agree that that mindset is overused (though not as much lately).

for this hand, i say we either go hard with TPGK and 3bet and hope to force some 1-pair/gutshot/combo draws to fold, or we think we're behind and we fold. calling accomplishes very little (it keeps us in the pot when we have a decent hand, but are we drawing? are we waiting for a safe card? are we re-evaluating based on the action?), so i think it is the worst of the 3 options.

if you read all this as "raise or fold!", then so be it.

[tehox]

I think a case could be made for folding preflop, though I would like a bigger sample size on villian.

This flop spot kind of sucks. I like calling better than raising actually. I think the cheaper we can get to showdown the better, and I am not really concerned about getting other hands to fold.

Reads would obviously help, but what can MP2 have here: AK/AA/KK/AQ/maybe AJ/maybe A10/K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

We have to pay 3BB to see a showdown, are often drawing dead or to 3 outs, and could outdrawn by flush the times we are ahead. I don't think we win often enough.

[Xhad]

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He doesn't like the raise or fold mentality. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Glad I'm not the only one around here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[KitCloudkicker]

fold PF. fold the flop. end of story.

[nerdking]

with MP2's stats I'd actually let it go pf, AJs is not a 3betting hand, even with postion. The flop is ugly, even with TPGK. MP2's raise screams "I have a better hand than you". Listen when the man tells you that your cards are no goot.

[Aaron W.]

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fold PF. fold the flop. end of story.

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Interesting use of authoritative tone, but the preflop coldcall with two limpers in before the PFR and a big suited ace is just fine if Hero can fold this flop with this action.

[Bad Beat Maker]

F o l d. Nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[JJack]

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Interesting use of authoritative tone, but the preflop coldcall with two limpers in before the PFR and a big suited ace is just fine if Hero can fold this flop with this action.

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Is cold call ok if there is only lone raiser?
I use Starting Hand Chart from pokerstrategy and its say rasie/call so its tell then i can cold call with AJs