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#13
10-22-2007, 10:54 PM
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Re: QUIZ
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 players Converted at weaktight.com Profiles and Stacks: UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$25.80</font>) 25.3/<font color="#cc0000">4.0</font>/2.0 (<font color="#0000cc">99</font>) UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$21.95</font>) <font color="#cc0000">9.4</font>/<font color="#cc0000">3.1</font>/1.0 (<font color="#0000cc">64</font>) MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">$14.75</font>) 21.2/12.1/3.0 (<font color="#0000cc">33</font>) MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">$23.70</font>) <font color="#cc0000">17.6</font>/<font color="#cc0000">0.0</font>/2.0 (<font color="#0000cc">34</font>) CO (<font color="#0000cc">$46.40</font>) 21.5/<font color="#cc0000">2.5</font>/0.5 (<font color="#0000cc">79</font>) Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$38.95</font>) <font color="#cc0000">12.8</font>/<font color="#cc0000">4.6</font>/1.0 (<font color="#0000cc">109</font>) SB (<font color="#0000cc">$5.75</font>) <font color="#cc0000">10.2</font>/<font color="#cc0000">8.2</font>/2.0 (<font color="#0000cc">98</font>) BB (<font color="#0000cc">$34.40</font>) 19.3/11.0/<font color="#cc0000">7.0</font> (<font color="#0000cc">109</font>) Pre-flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#777777">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font> Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.85, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $1.25</font>, Hero calls $1.25 Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.35, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.5 River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7.35, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $2.75</font>, Hero calls $2.75 Final Pot: ($12.85) Hero shows: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG shows: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG wins $12 ( won +$5.75 ) Hero lost -$6.25 He seriously value towned me but, this seemed like an odd hand for him to show up with, especially UTG. How many hands do you think it takes before someone's stats are reliable? 
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#14
10-22-2007, 10:55 PM
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Re: QUIZ
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How many hands do you think it takes before someone's stats are reliable? [/ QUOTE ] Thousands, why are you playing this hand this way anyways?
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#15
10-22-2007, 10:58 PM
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Re: QUIZ
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[ QUOTE ] How many hands do you think it takes before someone's stats are reliable? [/ QUOTE ] Thousands, why are you playing this hand this way anyways? [/ QUOTE ] seriously 700 doesn't really give that great a picture he could easily not have any AA or KK in that stretch(instead of the 6 he should have) that right there is ~1% pfr throw in a few spots where the action in front changes his play to call or fold instead of raise he could have a pfr double what his numbers show
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#16
10-22-2007, 11:00 PM
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Re: QUIZ
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[ QUOTE ] How many hands do you think it takes before someone's stats are reliable? [/ QUOTE ] Thousands, why are you playing this hand this way anyways? [/ QUOTE ] Why did I call down? Because I thought his range was heavily weighted to PP's
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#17
10-22-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: QUIZ
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How many hands do you think it takes before someone's stats are reliable? [/ QUOTE ] Thousands, why are you playing this hand this way anyways? [/ QUOTE ] seriously 700 doesn't really give that great a picture he could easily not have any AA or KK in that stretch(instead of the 6 he should have) that right there is ~1% pfr throw in a few spots where the action in front changes his play to call or fold instead of raise he could have a pfr double what his numbers show [/ QUOTE ] We base so many of our decisions in the strat forums on stats that come from 30 hands. It just seems kind of ridiculous, Does it get more accurate as the pfr% goes up?
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#19
10-22-2007, 11:09 PM
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Re: QUIZ
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How many hands do you think it takes before someone's stats are reliable? [/ QUOTE ] Thousands, why are you playing this hand this way anyways? [/ QUOTE ] seriously 700 doesn't really give that great a picture he could easily not have any AA or KK in that stretch(instead of the 6 he should have) that right there is ~1% pfr throw in a few spots where the action in front changes his play to call or fold instead of raise he could have a pfr double what his numbers show [/ QUOTE ] We base so many of our decisions in the strat forums on stats that come from 30 hands. It just seems kind of ridiculous, Does it get more accurate as the pfr% goes up? [/ QUOTE ] Lets not say we here. Unless the vpip is above 40 I don't bother with it without 100+ hands. Then I obviously consider that its not accurate unless it is indicated that it is over more than 1k hands although I prefer 2k+.
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#20
10-22-2007, 11:22 PM
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Re: QUIZ
I think that the higher percentage pfr's will converge faster. It would be nice to have an idea how fast though
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