Folding river when pot is big and i have to pay only 1BB

[Nick D]

Super Grunch

Wow, these are the types of hands I need to comment on because they seem a little difficult to me.

PF: A clear raise the first time around. The second time around, I'm not sure that I have the discipline to fold this hand unless I have about 200 hands on each player and they only 3-bet/cap the top 4 SH's. You're also getting 6.5:1 and can be relatively sure that you'll be getting callers behind you + it can't be raised any more. I'd say that if you call here (which I would probably do - <font color="red"> is this wrong, anyone? </font> ), you're hoping to hit two pair or QQ rag on the flop.

Flop: Odd that nobody bet in EP. Quite honestly, I'd probably check/call one bet back and re-evaluate on the turn. With middle pair and this much aggression PF, there is a chance someone will raise behind you or check/raise, making this a bet/fold IMO.

Turn: Standard.. You certainly don't wanna be giving another free card.. At this point it is looking as though villains have TT or JJ.

River: Pot is too large to give up for just one bet. You'd have to be correct to call only 8% of the time for this to be profitable <font color="red"> can someone concur with this? 13.5:1 odds --&gt; 1/13.5=.074 </font>, so make the crying call and then go take a shower when he flips over JJ.

Nick

[JJack]

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River: Pot is too large to give up for just one bet. You'd have to be correct to call only 8% of the time for this to be profitable can someone concur with this? 13.5:1 odds --&gt; 1/13.5=.074 , so make the crying call and then go take a shower when he flips over JJ.

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13.5:1 odds --&gt; 1/13.5+1 =.069

[CrMenace]

SUPER GRUNCH

PF: Although AQo is a very strong hand, IMO it is not strong enough to call a pf cap from a TAG villain. You should fold for the two extra bets. The odds of you being dominated are really severe here.

Flop: This is incredibly f'ed up. I can't think of a legitimate capping hand that a TAG SB should be checking here (I cap all of four hands pf: QQ+ and AK). So he's either flopped a monster and has decided to get silly, or he capped an illegitimate hand like AT, AQ, JJ or TT. I would proceed with caution, but when it's checked to you I think you have to bet into a big pot here. The pot is large, so I want to try to win it. I also don't want to give free cards that could give a two pair.

Turn: You now have two pair and no show of strength from anyone. This is a must bet, IMO.

River: Villain has played this so strangely that I'm inclied to call. 13.5:1 pot odds helps, too. It seems awfully likely that villain has JJ here that he decided to call down from the flop, but I'm willing to take the odds that villain had AT and called his GSSD or has AQ. I'm especially confused that villain did not c/r the river if he hit the straight, but he may have been worried that it got checked through. Bottom line -- pot is large, I have a strong hand; I call.

[Xhad]

If you think you need better than a pair of A's or Q's postflop then you don't belong in the hand. My calling range here is basically pairs and AK.

[CrMenace]

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If you think you need better than a pair of A's or Q's postflop then you don't belong in the hand. My calling range here is basically pairs and AK.

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Sorry, I don't get it. Can you rephrase?

[Aaron W.]

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If you think you need better than a pair of A's or Q's postflop then you don't belong in the hand. My calling range here is basically pairs and AK.

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Sorry, I don't get it. Can you rephrase?

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Axx and Qxx aren't exactly good flops for hero because it often puts him in a RIO spot where he's calling down with likely the worst hand.

Hero should definitely check behind on this flop and a Q is the best card for him, even though it may not be good against KK/QQ.

[Xylocain]

Does anyone have an opinion on calling the cap with AQ? Without reads, 14:2 is a pretty simple fold to me against unknowns. A TAG capping from the SB has AA,KK,QQ (JJ, AK).

Flop is a check, everyting that pwned us pf is pwning us plus the unlikely KQ.

Turn: if they are still checking, I'm betting with the intention to fold to a raise, tho the A doesn't really change anyting.

River: SB has AT &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt; than 1 in 14 (and more likely never). The pot isnt even monstrous. If you want to see JJ you can call, its not a huge leak.

[Xylocain]

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Q is the best card for him, even though it may not be good against KK/QQ.

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Well, in a way... it is if he gets his money out of the site in time.

[Xhad]

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If you think you need better than a pair of A's or Q's postflop then you don't belong in the hand. My calling range here is basically pairs and AK.

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Sorry, I don't get it. Can you rephrase?

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I'm saying up earlier in the thread some people had said "call and hope to flop 2 pair or better" or somesuch and I'm saying if you can't trust TPTK then AQ sucks. I raise/fold preflop in LHE maybe once a year but it's always in situations like this.

[neurotiq]

I think I would've folded this one preflop. With two other players 3betting and then capping, you're probably dominated and it's not too likely that you're going to win this hand.

On the flop, I think I would check. You have middle pair (top kicker), and a weak straight draw. You're losing to basically any hand that a TAG would cap against a raise and reraise in front of him/her.

On the turn, i think i'd check behind and try for a cheap showdown. you have a decently strong hand now, though i just can't fight the feeling that you're losing to just about anything in a TAG's preflop capping range with a raise and reraise in front of him/her. i think a check-raise isn't outside of the realm of possibility, so i want a cheap showdown.

as you played up to the river, i think i'd probably fold. you've shown a lot of aggression, and the tag seems to like his/her hand enough to keep pushing against you. checking behind on the turn, i think i'd probably call the river for a single bet.