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Old 07-31-2007, 01:55 PM
rabbitlover rabbitlover is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play by AA?

One point I'd like to make on this hand. My gut told me at the time of play that I should re-pop the open raiser or push; and the concensus here is to re-raise.

But if you plug this hand into Pokerstove, giving the opening raiser in the CO a top 15% hand, then the math seems to say to get maximum value that a call is correct.

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138,446,154 games 0.911 secs 151,971,628 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.166% 67.60% 00.57% 93587047 786225.17 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 19.681% 19.45% 00.23% 26922956 324816.17 { Tc9c }
Hand 2: 12.153% 11.44% 00.72% 15832643 992466.67 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KQo }


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Old 07-31-2007, 02:11 PM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play by AA?

Umm what the hell good is pokerstove when you have the nuts? I have no idea what you're doing with pokerstove there, or why you think it says calling is correct. Anyway, PF should be a reraise, calling is practically asking to take the flop 3 ways OOP, which sucks. Since you just called, the flop push is awful, at least lead out a psb and let someone push over the top of you with what you hope is a lone club...when you push you only get called when you're crushed.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:17 PM
Pants Optional Pants Optional is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play by AA?

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One point I'd like to make on this hand. My gut told me at the time of play that I should re-pop the open raiser or push; and the concensus here is to re-raise.

But if you plug this hand into Pokerstove, giving the opening raiser in the CO a top 15% hand, then the math seems to say to get maximum value that a call is correct.

<font color="purple">
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138,446,154 games 0.911 secs 151,971,628 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.166% 67.60% 00.57% 93587047 786225.17 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 19.681% 19.45% 00.23% 26922956 324816.17 { Tc9c }
Hand 2: 12.153% 11.44% 00.72% 15832643 992466.67 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KQo }




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Thoughts?
and thanks

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 15.529% 14.78% 00.75% 171551004 8732622.00 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 84.471% 83.72% 00.75% 971925864 8732622.00 { AA }

with more $ in the pot if button calls the reraise
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:04 AM
kl0kick kl0kick is offline
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Default Re: Bad Play by AA?

Agree with rapsu, with AA I really like being agressive PF. My thoughts are that when u 3-bet with AA like this, or even push all-in you eliminate hands that have livecards against you and you invite hands that you dominate(A-K, QQ, KK, AQs etc)..

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Old 08-05-2007, 04:28 PM
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I refuse to vote in your poll calling and pushing are both bad

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