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Re: Small 4-Bets
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[ QUOTE ] To be clear, how big are you saying the 4-bet should be? [/ QUOTE ] Put a man to a decision for all his chips! [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this when you're playing with 100BB stacks. It only changed to small 4-bets within the last few months. Before that it was always either 4-bet big and commit or just pooosh. That's how it should be IMO. 4-betting 2x or 2.5x is horrible and all it does is give your opponent a free pass to call with odds. After all, his 3-betting range is a lot tighter than his raising range. In a vacuum, the only hands that are correct to 4-bet small with are AA, KK and maybe QQ. For obvious reasons, no one is only 4-betting with that range, so the play is sub-optimal overall. |
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Oh and please tell me how you're owning them. [/ QUOTE ] I'll explain the correct counter-strategy as soon as someone provides the reasoning for this latest trend. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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more common is making it ~3x the 3bet imo ($150-$160). making it 60 or 70 on top is pretty terrible unless villain is too stupid to call. [/ QUOTE ] Making it 150-160 is pretty terrible too I think. You're committing yourself to call a shove anyways, and if for some reason your opponent just calls you can run into some very awkward flops. Shove ftw. |
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Re: Small 4-Bets
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[ In a vacuum, the only hands that are correct to 4-bet small with are AA, KK and maybe QQ. For obvious reasons, no one is only 4-betting with that range, so the play is sub-optimal overall. [/ QUOTE ] You`re close to the solution... |
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Hey matt! Long time, no see.
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So you three bet to 50 w/99 and get four bet to 120. You're calling with odds? What about KQs?
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Re: Small 4-Bets
this thread is tilting me.
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Re: Small 4-Bets
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So you three bet to 50 w/99 and get four bet to 120. You're calling with odds? What about KQs? [/ QUOTE ] I think the better question is: So you're four betting small with AK? What do you do when your opponent calls and you whiff the flop? As far as what I do with 99 or KQs...it all depends on who the 4-betting opponent is. |
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So you're four betting small with AK? What do you do when your opponent calls and you whiff the flop? [/ QUOTE ] I play poker. [ QUOTE ] As far as what I do with 99 or KQs...it all depends on who the 4-betting opponent is. [/ QUOTE ] As does anybody's 4-betting range. |
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Re: Small 4-Bets
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[ QUOTE ] So you're four betting small with AK? What do you do when your opponent calls and you whiff the flop? [/ QUOTE ] I play poker. [/ QUOTE ] With 100BB stacks, what kind of poker do you play? |
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