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Old 09-20-2005, 10:53 AM
stokken stokken is offline
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In this case with just 1 card to come I would opt for the smooth call. If SB calls great more into the pot, but if he raises there is the possibility of more chips for us, If he folds so be it, at least he was given a chanse to contribute .And in the case he folds or just calls, should the club or K fail to fall one still has chips to work with.
Range co:AK-T, KQ, QJ,QT,JT, If AA-55 horribly played

I think the flush draw is decently hidden, and that the hand has implied odds if one more should fall.

Had the flush draw been materialized on the flopp I`d be more willing to raise then, but not so with 1 card to come, but might call a reraise from sb dependent on size and co`s action
This is a wonderfull turn for the hand, but I wouldnt jump out of my chair.
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:05 AM
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I wish we had bet the flop, maybe 1000 to see where we stood. It has good texture for us and with only 2 opponents we have a good chance to use position to take this down right there (and if not, there are redraws out there). We're still a bit weary of the CO's open limp, and by checking behind we have no idea if anyone is sitting on something big.

Since we checked, I like the smooth call. We can get away from this hand if we miss, and probably win a nice pot from CO if we hit on the river. By raising here to 5,000, if the CO calls and a blank hits on the river, what would our play be? We showed no strength on the flop so that makes this play less believable. Do we really want to push the rest in on an ace-high bluff? The CO would be getting good odds so that may not even be enough to push him off if he has something like QJ.
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Play a Hand With the Masters #1 Turn

This exercise is harder than I thought when Hero's action isn't what I said I would do!!

I'm pushing here. Tons of outs if I'm behind, and the check of the flop looks like a steal gone wrong on my end.
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Old 09-28-2005, 02:53 PM
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fold..you lost the lead on the flop
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:06 AM
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Well MJ is done here in my mind. He has checked twice and there are a million draws out there so he would bet if he was going to continue. Which I don't really think is all that weak tight. He called with a good hand and wiffed, he is allowed to check fold.

I would put cutoffs range at TT-55,KJs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,KJo+,QJo,JTo,T9o,98o So basically most limping hands have got there.

We are only about 36% from here. But everything looks so pretty. The question I would now ask myself is "What are my chances of winning a much bigger pot?" Not too good.

So now if I raise I have to raise to about 4,000 which is almost half of my stack. And if he calls I have to push the river. So it has become a push/fold. I might lean towards folding.

But, that would really matter about the table and what I think I could do with a monster stack or with the stack I have now. If I feel like if I double up here I will rule this table I might gamble. Because there are a good number of holdings he might not call with. I would think he is only calling with a straight or a set of 10s, which really helps our fold equity and might make this a slightly +EV spot.
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:09 AM
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i'm gonna jump on the raise to 5k bandwagon. i think it'll be tough for CO to just call a strong hand on the raise, so i'd push any river (except maybe a Q). get all-in on the turn if need be.

i don't know why everyone is talking about the "deep stacks" like it's level one at the wsop. this is almost exactly like level 1 at party only multiplied by 10.
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Play a Hand With the Masters #1 Turn

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i don't know why everyone is talking about the "deep stacks" like it's level one at the wsop. this is almost exactly like level 1 at party only multiplied by 10.

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I guess b/c I'm used to having much less when the BB 150.
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:25 AM
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i don't know why everyone is talking about the "deep stacks" like it's level one at the wsop. this is almost exactly like level 1 at party only multiplied by 10.

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Its "Day One" and its $10K and its likely the third or fourth level.
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:22 AM
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I don't understand why anyone would push here. There is not enough information to do so--the villians have only invested 600 each in this pot and the flop was checked around. While the hero has a fantastic drawing hand he is likely behind here and could be up against KJ or even J8 as well as a set.

Range for MJ/CO: AA-22, AK-A9, KQ-K9, QT-Q9, JT-J8

I call. I don't want MJ to raise. The river question is how badly to go after the pot if I don't make my hand and its checked or small bet to me. I don't think its that tricky if the flush or straight comes.

I play this hand much more aggressive if I'm HU....
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Old 09-20-2005, 11:32 AM
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i hate raising here and think its a pretty bad play. I call and i dont like where i'm at right now. Folding is good if you dont think he'll call a value bet when you hit.
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