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Old 09-18-2007, 08:23 AM
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I think it's fine too. jfish, you see the limper?
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: Is this even ok?

I raise river. your hand isn't good anymore
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: Is this even ok?

odd, i play this a lot different.

if i decide to raise pf im raising to $24. i do not want a caller, im raising becuase utg limped rather than raised, which means either AA/KK/AK or a pocket pair/suited connector, and thus he won't call a $24 raise but may call an $18, therfore i pick up the $10 for free pf.

given the way you played it, i instant raise the flop, up to about $68. he could well be playing any flush draw, any suited ace, QK, JK, i dunno, but i think you have to raise the flop to avoid being taken to value town. you could say that he may donk a turn bet, but in general he will check expecting me to bet.

this type of hand i would always raise to $24 and never to $18, and always raise this flop. for sure you can say 'he only calls with a weaker hand', but i still think this should be a raise and not a call as otherwise you get taken to valuetown and it costs more than if you had raised the flop.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:25 AM
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I think it's fine too. jfish, you see the limper?

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he meant dont bother isoing with [censored] hands like A8o
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:32 AM
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I think it's fine too. jfish, you see the limper?

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he meant dont bother isoing with [censored] hands like A8o

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ah ok well then I'm in complete agreement
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Is this even ok?

Seems like an OK calldown given the price you're getting. However, you aren't good here often. As far as the response that Villain "has a worse Ace", this is very, very unlikely, and not many hands even make this possible.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:35 AM
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I think I fold river.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:37 AM
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Why would villain donkbet river again if he's missed the flush? That size is only going to get called/rr'ed.

I think villain has a higher kicker and has Hero beat, which is why I don't call donkbets to river on TPMK.

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you obviously have no insight into the mind of the common donk.

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Nowhere did the OP say villain was a donk.. unless of course you were referring to yourself as the common donk with the advice given.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:07 AM
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I just fold this pre without any kind of read on UTG. postflop is fine.

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Old 09-18-2007, 12:04 PM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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Default Re: Is this even ok?

Preflop is somewhat marginal to me, but I'm nitty.

Rest is fine.

Since you posted he had A9+, but he plays many weaker one pair hands the same, don't worry.
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