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Old 11-04-2007, 02:06 AM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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What can I say? He's played better than McFadden has this season. He almost had more total yards than McFadden going into today (993-863) despite having about half as many carries.

I know McFadden had a monster game against South Carolina tonight and that's why I moved him into the Top 5, but even tonight Jones had a better average. The fact that Jones had 6 carries for 42 yards when McFadden and 17 carries for 43 in the game that cost Arkansas a chance to win the SEC West affected my decision too.
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:09 AM
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No but what im saying is that Jones would not be what he is right now if Mcfadden wasnt there. We use jones almost like Florida uses Percy Harvin or something along those lines. Defenses have to focus alot more on Mcfadden so Felix gets to pick up alot more yards.

If you reverse their roles and Jones played more the typical between the tackles role, Mcfadden's YPC average would be really sick also.

This all being said they are 2 of the top three backs in college football and thank god we have them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:37 AM
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1. Dennis Dixon
2. Darren McFadden
3. Chase Daniel-Todd Reesing-Sam Bradford

that's all for now




oh yeah, Mike Hart for most overrated player--just look at the lack of production drop off with him out
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:26 AM
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oh yeah, Mike Hart for most overrated player--just look at the lack of production drop off with him out

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Other factors could be the reasons for a smaller drop off than expected. Michigan's other RB's could be really good. The opposing team's defense might be weaker when Hart's not in. Watch Hart run and try to convince yourself that he's not a very good RB. (btw...he's led the nation in rushing over the period he's been healthy.)
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:45 AM
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Fellow Michigan fans really, just stop. You can't be injured for as much of the season as Hart has been and still win. He was great when healthy, but his hopes are pretty much shot barring a 6843 yard 43 td performance against OSU.

But the sarcastic lack of production thing with him out is a bit much to say. Henne was injured for a decent amount of time Hart was healthy, and his return to old form undoubtedly helped out Minor and Brown, who are both apparently better than anyone thought. I love the guy to death, but he is not winning the Heisman.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:54 AM
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Hart will make it to NYC simply b/c he'll get a ton of 3rd and 4th place votes. Is he the best back in the country, No, not even close. Does he mean more to his team on and off the field than any other back in the country? Arguably yes. Mike Hart is the epitome of what a collegiate athletic should be and voters will reward him for his outstanding career.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:03 AM
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oh yeah, Mike Hart for most overrated player--just look at the lack of production drop off with him out

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Hmm, I would have thought the opposite. I know the backups did okay against Illinois and eventually did good against Minnesota, but the traditional thinking was our backups kind of sucked in limited time. Might be a function of them not getting a chance to get into a rhythm or something as backups.

The dropoff was there against State, and the first half against Minn, and all of 2005, but that isn't particularly relevant (esp since we had different backups now that Grady is hurt).

Sad thing is I find the Heisman one of the stupider awards given that it is an individual award that heavily factors in a team's record and status, so it sucks when my team has a player in contention at some point and I have to care about it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:04 PM
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Sad thing is I find the Heisman one of the stupider awards given that it is an individual award that heavily factors in a team's record and status

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Old 11-07-2007, 12:20 PM
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1. Dennis Dixon
2. Darren McFadden
3. Chase Daniel-Todd Reesing-Sam Bradford

that's all for now




oh yeah, Mike Hart for most overrated player--just look at the lack of production drop off with him out

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vs. MSU Hart had 15 carries for 110 yards. Brown and Minor had 8 carries for 4 yards.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:07 PM
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1. Dennis Dixon
2. Darren McFadden
3. Chase Daniel-Todd Reesing-Sam Bradford

that's all for now




oh yeah, Mike Hart for most overrated player--just look at the lack of production drop off with him out

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Have things changed a bit?

1)Tebow
2)Dixon
.....
3)Everyone else

That said, I think DD is going to win because he isn't a sophmore & he has the better games left. If the Gators slip in to the SECCG, then Tebow will have a better shot.

-Mock vote by Heisman voters:
"One voter who submitted a ballot with Tebow at the top said he expected to move him down because he didn't think the award should go to an underclassmen ahead of a senior who won't have another shot."

Unreal, award is obviously rigged regardless.
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