$16 - KQ SB

[Kevin8423]

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Shoving pf is not mandatory, a bit deep. Shove turn though.

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[eurythmech]

pretty sure call is never the best play pf

[TruFloridaGator]

Sure it is.

Call >> Shove >>> fold

[eurythmech]

Righty-o, we disagree.

[TruFloridaGator]

Shoving 14x over a limp is probably pretty thin, taking a flop with KQ is far from bad.

[eurythmech]

I think there are plenty of occasions where you can push this stack size over limptards. Lots of value to be gained.
I usually do it with Ax or mid pair type of hands, though.

I might be making a mistake, never taking a flop here, I just don't like playing these types of hands OOP.

[malnek]

shoving here isnt great imo.

[Takeover_inc]

I like the hand. I think our stack is a bit large for shoving pre imo. Just check and try to peal TP decent kicker.

Flop looks fine

unless i had some sort of read i would shove the turn. I think we are still ahead of his range enough to justify shoving. And we still have the Q for a re draw.

[wrkingtobegreat]

Check/folding the turn is awful. Bet/calling and check/raising all in is far superior. Preflop a shove is decent but like someone said certainly not mandatory.

[HajiShirazu]

I think a shove pre has more value than taking a flop. As played never fold.