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Old 07-17-2007, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass

Gordon is not a strong player and his analysis is painful to listen to. He is a wealthy amateur who had some success at donkaments when they were smaller fields. He is also a a pretty good talker.

Gordon and Helmuth were criticizing the reraise allin with AQo by Rainkahn against the loose chip leader, which was absolutely an automatic play. Also, the reraise allin and call blind versus blind by Yang and Watkinson were standard. Gordon goes on about how limping is bad.

Yang is obviously not a polished player, but amateurs with an aggressive style have won about half the time lately, for example, Gold, Moneymaker, Varkonyi, and Furlong.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass

Automatic play?

I think you are misunderstanding the structure differences between the WSOP final table and late in a Donkament online.

2 entirely different animals...

Calling with A9 there is not AUTOMATIC.

It is read specific....you better have some table dynamic understanding or a stong physical read...or else you fold.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:50 PM
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Automatic play?

I think you are misunderstanding the structure differences between the WSOP final table and late in a Donkament online.

2 entirely different animals...

Calling with A9 there is not AUTOMATIC.

It is read specific....you better have some table dynamic understanding or a stong physical read...or else you fold.

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I said calling with A9 BvB was standard. The reraise with AQ was automatic. With Yang's aggressive image, Watkinson's image as a fairly aggressive strong pro, and Yang being able to afford the chips, I think is was the correct play without a read.

I suppose you are saying that you should play weak/tight at a major tournament or assume other people are playing weak/tight. I think that depends on your read of the player and neither player here was a standard weak/tight live donkament player.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass

lol Phil Gordon
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:03 AM
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Gordon is not a strong player and his analysis is painful to listen to. He is a wealthy amateur who had some success at donkaments when they were smaller fields. He is also a a pretty good talker

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Yea it's not like he's ever been in the final 4 of the ME final table before, so what gives him the right to criticize?
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass

I was on his side for a while, but all he seems to do is criticize people's bet sizes....big deal, get over it. People can bet what they want, that's why it's no-limit. That's what makes it interesting.

Seems to work for some people anyway...
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass

he just called out 2p2 on the broadcast :&lt;
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:46 AM
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[x] NEEDS TO SAY LOL DONKAMENTS
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:47 AM
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someone call in and level phil please
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:49 AM
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someone call in and level phil please

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Sir, may I introduce you to Bill Edler?
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