Police kill Polish man @ Vancouver Airport

[PBFan]

that is fkin sick.

[Bellagibro]

How hard would it be to get a translator at the airport? Canada is one of the most multi-national countries in the world. I'm positive there was somebody who spoke polish at the airport.

This situation should have been handled better from the beginning. I would be freaking out if I was detained for 10 hours and nobody said a word that I could understand.

[Blarg]

K's story of the romanian people worrying about their connecting flight illustrates how a whole chain of problems could ensue if part of your travel plans go awry, and if you're thinking maybe you could prevent that from happening if you could just communicate with someone, it must be extremely aggravating. I could see the frustration mounting up to an extreme.

FWIW, I have never been a fan of cops playing fast and easy with people's necks, whether tasers are involved or not. Or their other joints really, but especially their necks! Choke holds, whatever, it doesn't matter. Anybody involved with applying force to the human anatomy should have a clear understanding of how dangerous it is to do certain things. It's not like one joint is exactly like any other. I can understand if there's really a fight going on that an officer has every right to defend himself, but your response still has to be a responsible one. Being a cop changes nothing about that. If anything, it should hold you to a higher standard.

Once a guy is docile, if you still keep applying pain to him, not only is it simply unethical, but you are very likely to force a defensive and/or panicked physical response from him. That just increases the chance someone will get hurt, including the officers themselves, and might result in unnecessary criminal charges against a citizen who was merely responding like anyone would who was scared, in pain, or both. Applying more force than is necessary is not only bad police work, it's counter-productive.

[TomCollins]

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Tasering seems to have become standard protocol in America. When the things originally came out it was claimed they could be used in place of guns, to save lives. Now they are used as a matter of course to control people who aren't in any way dangerous. It's wrong and I can't believe there isn't more oversight and control.

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[Thug Bubbles]

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Tasering seems to have become standard protocol in America. When the things originally came out it was claimed they could be used in place of guns, to save lives. Now they are used as a matter of course to control people who aren't in any way dangerous. It's wrong and I can't believe there isn't more oversight and control.

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LOL

Cute, overused, and completely wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Wait:

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Much bettah! LOL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Taso]

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Tasering seems to have become standard protocol in America. When the things originally came out it was claimed they could be used in place of guns, to save lives. Now they are used as a matter of course to control people who aren't in any way dangerous. It's wrong and I can't believe there isn't more oversight and control.

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tom, I think you've got the wrong guy, that's Phil, not Midge.

[housenuts]

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The knee in the neck, is that necessary?

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yes, that is standard procedure when taking someone down. people have been tasered and still been able to fight. the knee in the neck isn't meant to cause more harm, it's just a control method.

as for the taser being necessary, that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

[Blarg]

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The knee in the neck, is that necessary?

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yes, that is standard procedure when taking someone down. people have been tasered and still been able to fight. the knee in the neck isn't meant to cause more harm, it's just a control method.

as for the taser being necessary, that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

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A lot of things aren't meant to be harmful, or at least there is room to claim they aren't, but nevertheless can be harmful. Lots of those things aren't done anymore. Efficiency is definitely not the only or best criteria.

[R*R]

I am a Canaidian living in the Vancouver area and I (like most) am sickened by this. It should have never happened and that is the sentiment of the majority of Canadians.

[RR]

Wow, that was totally messed up. It looked like they thought they could shock him into understanding English. It would appear to me that they were upset that he was being disrespectful by walking away when they were trying to talk to him so they decided to zap him.