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11-18-2007, 01:04 PM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
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foxwoods 50/100.. game is great obviously. [/ QUOTE ] when was this game going? i.e. what day was this from? [ QUOTE ] I have been playing relatively tight this session and havent won any monsters at showdown, mostly standard spots but with a strong image. EP raises, CO calls, SB calls, i call BB w/ AcQs, (game is playing generally passive and i did not feel raising would really accomplish anything here considering my position and their relatively horrible post flop decision making.) Flop KJ9 checked around turn T sb bets, i call, EP calls, CO calls rest fold river K sb bets, i call, ep folds, co calls the CO in this hand is tommy.. a young foxwoods/AC reg and we were discussing the river and turn play for a little bit and i thought it was a pretty interesting spot. just wondering if theres enough value to calling in both spots hoping to get overcalls behind on the turn. the river play is also interesting b/c for my plan on the turn to work, i have to call again here. also, does the CO call 2 bets cold w/ just a Q enough to make a raise profitable? or is just calling gaining me extra value from hands he may fold for two bets? for those of you whom know tommy he is very capable of laying down a hand and has a pretty decent hand reading ability when he is playing good, and this session he was very un-tilty and playing reasonably well. [/ QUOTE ] my experience w/ tommy is that if anything he is a bit too passive (bad UTG raised, 1 cold caller, i 3bet TT on the button he called QQ in the sb), but other than that a great player. i've never seen him tilt of get out of line, though to be fair my sample size w/ him is pretty small. onto the hand: i think that if the turn was a T and there was instead of a 9 an 8 (KJ8 T) then i'd like your play more. but given that there is a straight now on board, you are in a dream situation and imo at the time of the turn call i would expect anybody w/ a queen to call you down. who was the sb? who was EP? what would tommy simply call and then check the flop with and then simply call turn and river? i would not be surprised if he showed up here w/ QQ. i don't think he calls that river w/ less than a straight, and if sb is bad, i don't see how he can put you on AQ and fold for 2 bets if you raise a bad playing sb. Barron 
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#2
11-18-2007, 10:26 PM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
I see Ears get out of line often, maybe it's just a random thing.
Some fun hands from Ears: 50 Tommy limps UTG everyone folds to SB who raises, BB folds Tommy 3bets SB calls 843r SB checkcalls Turn J SB C/R River 4 Tommy raises, SB calls SB AJs Tommy T9o
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#3
11-19-2007, 12:44 AM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
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my experience w/ tommy is that if anything he is a bit too passive (bad UTG raised, 1 cold caller, i 3bet TT on the button he called QQ in the sb), but other than that a great player. i've never seen him tilt of get out of line, though to be fair my sample size w/ him is pretty small. [/ QUOTE ] You either are thinking of the wrong Tommy or maybe only played 5 hands with him. He can get aggro and can tilt hard.
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#4
11-19-2007, 01:16 AM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
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[ QUOTE ] my experience w/ tommy is that if anything he is a bit too passive (bad UTG raised, 1 cold caller, i 3bet TT on the button he called QQ in the sb), but other than that a great player. i've never seen him tilt of get out of line, though to be fair my sample size w/ him is pretty small. [/ QUOTE ] You either are thinking of the wrong Tommy or maybe only played 5 hands with him. He can get aggro and can tilt hard. [/ QUOTE ] tommy: lanky, maybe 5'8-5'10, friends w/ josh et.al. i've played literally 2 times w/ him and never once saw him either a) get out of line, or b) get max value (i.e. since he was playing weak tight. in fact, i played a hand badly against him specifically b/c i thought he was weak tight...it was the TT hand in fact. some limper, some raise i 3 bet he cold calls QQ in the sb. all call. flop 973 two spades i have Ts. checked to me i bet tommy c'r fold to me i think he has either a flush draw, a set here (i.e. AKs/AQsnot as likely or 99/77/not likely 33), or TT/88/77. so instead of 3 betting or simply calling down, or calling the flop and turn and folding river, i decide to call and raise the turn and fold to a 3 bet. turn falls and he bets and i raise and he 3bets and i almost muck....but then i look at the freaking turn card: Jx...meaning i pretty much have 6 outs here and can't fold. so i call despite knowing that it is physically impossible to ever hit the card you need when you make a mistake like that...just karma or some other metaphysical force... he checks the river and i check behind and he says 1 pair, queens, i say "good" and muck. Barron
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11-25-2007, 01:11 AM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
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barron.. tommy tilts VERY hard, and plays about as spazzy as possible while he is. but he plays very good when he's not and VB's very well. [/ QUOTE ] i've been informed that there are many many tommies. the tommy i'm thinking of and who that hand above was against is known as "tommy ears" are we speaking of the same tommy? thanks, Barron
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#8
11-19-2007, 10:59 PM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
I don't know about raising the turn but I would definalty raise for value on the river? I don't see what would be so wrong with this unless you are afraid of a boat.
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#9
11-20-2007, 02:09 AM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
Well there you go.
[x] high stakes is the new small stakes
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#10
11-20-2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: 50/100 interesting river decision
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Well there you go. [x] high stakes is the new small stakes [/ QUOTE ] Wow, SS and I finally agree. And to think, it had to be in high stakes. Side note: has this game been going often? I might be making an appearance this saturday Saturday SATURDAY!
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