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Old 07-09-2007, 04:11 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

Honestly folding preflop is ok given we are OOP to a nit with a tight reraising range. I usually call though. Post is pretty easy though, check/call flop and check/fold turn.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

I shove here

You are well ahead of his range, especially considering he is still likely steamed about your "play" a couple of minutes ago

Seriously ... he may have just decided to play you the next time you raised a pot
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

What is with opening for $12 UTG? Just curious how it has been working out for you.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

You did not call his 3-bet to fold to this flop, did you?


Call and see turn.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

Yikes. Thats a tough spot. Do you have any notes on his 3betting tendencies? I assume you would if you have 750 hands on him. I think if you know he can 3bet with hands like AK/AJs+/88+ I think you can shove here. Thats the only real move you can make given that specific info. Otherwise I think I can fold if he is pretty vanilla ABC TAG.

Does anyone lead this here for $50ish and fold to a raise? It seems like this player is gonna CBet this flop all the time if checked too.

Dunno. I get in trouble in spots like these.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

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What is with opening for $12 UTG? Just curious how it has been working out for you.

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yeah ... wtf ... that is spew ... 3x
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

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What is with opening for $12 UTG? Just curious how it has been working out for you.

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misclick
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

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wtf?

17/14 isn't nit
and fwiw, I'm pretty sure he's c-betting most of his range on the flop.

I think I call here and re-evaluate turn.
It kinda sux to fold turn with the huge pot,
but I think he's also shutting down after the flop.

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If I was villian, I probably shove turn with all of my range after I build such a big pot.

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200NL regs insta call you here with any pair.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:17 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

What's up with your pfr size? If you're considering folding the flop you should have folded preflop. So folding the flop is no option. Call.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

how can you call preflop w/o having a plan for when you flop the overpair and he bets? thing is, if hes good, you cant pull any moves on this flop.
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