NL50- Set faces turn shove - Page 2

Peter Harris · #11 07-09-2007, 07:40 AM

it's the first decent stove analysis i've done in 4 years. and i'm pissed off i forgot to include flopped flushes, which i do consider a threat. I definitely advocate more use of stoving with % ranges then working out the equivalent # of combos.

munkey · #12 07-09-2007, 07:58 AM

Just to say rly nice analysis Peter. I'm going to save and properly read this l8er.

Peter Harris · #13 07-09-2007, 08:29 AM

looks like i ought to be doing more of these. Thank the gods i have the time to now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ama0330 · #14 07-09-2007, 08:50 AM

Wow I would have HUGE trouble folding this. Maybe I need to reconsider.

ama0330 · #15 07-09-2007, 08:52 AM

When you think about it, it would be pretty reckless of someone with these stats to be doing this with a hand that you are way ahead of. I just think that this would be a super super disciplined fold.

Nice analysis there Peter.

SirFelixCat · #16 07-09-2007, 08:53 AM

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Wow I would have HUGE trouble folding this. Maybe I need to reconsider.

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Maybe this is me seeing monsters under my bed from this same situation playing live and me pushing $1100 and getting snap called by the flopped nut flush, but still, I really don't see what OP is beating at this point that plays the hand this way. Call me crazy, but I don't see AsJx limp/calling preflop and pushing the turn here from a solid/nitty player [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] . Therefore, wth else can we be ahead of here?

murmeltier21 · #17 07-09-2007, 09:02 AM

well as I said i cannot fold a set in the heat of the action. i was like: oh well if she`s really got the flush i can still make my boat.
given my redraw possibilities and the slim chance that im already drawing dead i called this.
thanks for all the comments. it really made me reconsider a lot of things i didn't think of while i was in the hand.
i'll post results if you ask for, but right now i see the discussion still goin on =)

murmeltier21 · #18 07-09-2007, 09:08 AM

i haven't really read anything about the odds i am getting for a call here. they're like 1.5:1
so after all the discussion and peter's great post (thanks for that) i would find a fold here in the future, esp given the nitty read on villain.
i am just having a really hard time ever folding a set, prolly cause most of the time i am WA with them