Deep stack NLH advice.

[surfinillini]

for deep stack NL play...

play JJ and QQ like they're 99, not AA

[jlocdog]

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play at a limit where the money means very little to you. the best deeeep players have a complete detachment (even w/ their case buy in or someone elses cash)

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I think this is true in all forms and depths (of poker) but is more noticeable and difficult to do with more money on the table. Great point.

[jlocdog]

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for deep stack NL play...

play JJ and QQ like they're 99, not AA

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Please expand on this idea. Is it for pot control reasons? Does the level of play in deepstack get tighter? Where do you draw the lines in respect to the clout one should give to all PP's? For instance are 77's now worth the same (in theory) as 33's and so on?

[surfinillini]

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for deep stack NL play...

play JJ and QQ like they're 99, not AA

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Please expand on this idea. Is it for pot control reasons? Does the level of play in deepstack get tighter? Where do you draw the lines in respect to the clout one should give to all PP's? For instance are 77's now worth the same (in theory) as 33's and so on?

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I'm just saying if you're getting called and 3-bet when holding QQ/JJ (and assuming you would obviously call 3-bets) and the flop comes 10 high, don't overvalue your overpair when you're sitting 200-300bb's behind...

its easier to lay 77 or 33 to one bet on a 10 high flop if you don't set up, than to lay down QQ on a 10 high flop when you're taking serious heat...

low pps are easy to toss away is what I mean, but when you have lower overpairs, just watch your step...

[restrikt]

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Phil Hellmuth style. Keep the pot small. Make better decisions on subsequent streets.

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How do you go about "making better decisions on subsequent streets"? How does this differ from making good decisions with only 100BB? That is like saying, try to win. Please explain in a bit more detail onn how to keep the pots small, and play Hellmuth style, and make better decisions...

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What I meant was that by keeping the pot small, you have the opportunity to make better decisions (i.e. have a variety of decisions to choose from) on later streets.

The closer the pot size becomes relative to your stack, the more obvious your decisions are (i.e. the closer you become to push or fold mode).

[gummy d]

Knowing your opponents (reading hands is a subset of this)
Knowing and manipulating your table image (the shorter the game the more important this)
Deception
...that's the meta
you guys mentioned all the others( pc,io, the big P etc..

[jlocdog]

restrikt,

Is having obvious decisions necessarily bad? Having a variety may mean more mistakes, no?

Is there a time you want to play big pots? when?

[jlocdog]

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Knowing your opponents (reading hands is a subset of this)

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In what way does this differ from shorter stack play? I f I know my opponents well in a 100BB game then what more do I need to know in a 200BB game?

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Knowing and manipulating your table image (the shorter the game the more important this)

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This is a good point. Changing gears will be a mandatory wheras in a shortstack game you can get away with one solid basic strategy since their are less decisions.

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Deception
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Does that go along with manipulating the table? If not then please decipher the two for me.

[AKQJ10]

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Knowing your opponents (reading hands is a subset of this)

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In what way does this differ from shorter stack play? I f I know my opponents well in a 100BB game then what more do I need to know in a 200BB game?

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Because you will face many more tough postflop decisions in a 200 BBL game. This is particularly true if your opponents are tricky, less true if your opponents are predictable -- but if you don't know your opponents, you can't recognize them as predictable.

[jlocdog]

Are you advocating a tight approach when you first enter the game then to asses your situation?

Would ramming and jamming right off the bat to not only give off a certain image but as well to let the table react to you be effective?