NL Bots on Full Tilt

[peatr999]

thats complete BS, they are basicalyl admitting to it. can't anyone do something?

[TheDna]

Just wow.. Is it just me that thinks this is a huge witch hunt ?
I mean reading this i cant believe how many guys still really think these guys are bots and that based on the low samplesize of some 100k hands..


Autoppiloting FR is np and i think its easy possible to find a strat that works for max tables, with tiltcontrol why should the stats EVER change if you even find fixed %-numbers for your betsizes ?
Yes, not many run such a system and its hard work to "grind it out" thats why those numbers arent comen. Its prolly easyier to move up in limits and improve on playing on a lower MTR with a bigger winrate.
But my god cant you just leave these guys alone ?

[fjbourne]

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The fact that FT took action in the case of the HU limit bot but not this one in interesting. Somehow there was a lot of evidence in that case and not very much in this one.

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I wonder if the rake generated by these 3 players plays a roll?

3 players 12 tabling NL 10 hours/day >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>> 1 hu specialist.


I'm not calling anyone out for being a bot, as I have no clue, but I have to believe that FTP would consider the amount of rake being paid to them by certain players before banning them. When you start talking about tens of thousands of $$$$ I think its pretty easy for FTP and other sites to look the other way. WTF do they care?

And I'm sure they were happy as a pig in poo to see 70k sitting in that dudes account for them to seize, whether the allagations are true or not. It's not like they can or would redistribute the funds back out to all the players that lost it.

FTP and others sites are simply running a business. Time after Time we have seen companies, regulated and traded companies, throw Ethics to the ground in order to make an extra buck. If anything, the field these companies are in and the current political environment make it even more likely IMO.

[NFuego20]

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Just wow.. Is it just me that thinks this is a huge witch hunt ?
I mean reading this i cant believe how many guys still really think these guys are bots and that based on the low samplesize of some 100k hands..


Autoppiloting FR is np and i think its easy possible to find a strat that works for max tables, with tiltcontrol why should the stats EVER change if you even find fixed %-numbers for your betsizes ?
Yes, not many run such a system and its hard work to "grind it out" thats why those numbers arent comen. Its prolly easyier to move up in limits and improve on playing on a lower MTR with a bigger winrate.
But my god cant you just leave these guys alone ?

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Come on now....so many people trying to make this into a black and white issue, on both sides. You'll never convince me that something extremely unusual wasn't happening here. Not many people are saying that it should be taken to the level of confiscating money in this particular case, but there is a lot of very legitimate evidence to warrant an investigation at the very least. It's so important to have people at least on the lookout for this kind of thing, because it is so much greater of a threat to the online game than people care to believe. Heck, as somebody posted just the other day, there are whole forums out there devoted to building bots for the purpose of use at sites like FT. It's not just paranoia.

And 100K hands is a small sample size? Preflop numbers being the same is one thing, all other numbers including turn & river being nearly the same is another. It's not even worth getting into all the other points of argument but there are plenty.

You either must have some major interest in this debate or direct affiliation with those who are accused to make that your first post on 2+2.

[TheDna]

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It's so important to have people at least on the lookout for this kind of thing, because it is so much greater of a threat to the online game than people care to believe. Heck, as somebody posted just the other day, there are whole forums out there devoted to building bots for the purpose of use at sites like FT. It's not just paranoia.


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Okai i agree there 100%. Its good to have this forum and to have people look for such things. And i agree that there are bots out there.

But i think in this case its a bit too much of a witchhunt for me. These guys prolly wont be able to do theire normal no chat style multitabling anymore.. They even tryed to clear things up here but whatever they say ppl just make new storys out of it, well if thats not a witchunt i dont know..

[donkraft]

I have read the first 100 posts or so, but I will never make it to the end...

CLIFFNOTES? MSPAINT?

[kidpokeher]

Nope. Keep reading.

[Pearlcaster]

Check out a 2/4 limit player called EMPYREAL.
I have suspected he's a bot for a long time, or, he's somehow got extra info.

Nobody plays that way and makes money consistently unless they got something special up their sleeve.

[Smart Money]

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Check out a 2/4 limit player called EMPYREAL.
I have suspected he's a bot for a long time, or, he's somehow got extra info.

Nobody plays that way and makes money consistently unless they got something special up their sleeve.

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Irrational and delusional thinking. Complete paranoia.

[rosso87]

played full_tilting today in a $30 headsup S&G, lets just say i pwned the crap out of him. i think he was in non bot mode.