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Old 09-07-2007, 12:00 AM
ADLinden ADLinden is offline
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im 20 and i feel like ive been threw a lot of cleveland crap, and i didnt even experience late 80's browns
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:00 PM
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im 20 and i feel like ive been threw a lot of cleveland crap, and i didnt even experience late 80's browns

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I went to the Browns-Oilers playoff game on Christmas Eve, 1988. Goddamn it was cold. And they lost by a FG, set up by an interception with like 2 minutes left.

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Old 09-10-2007, 01:30 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/features/cy

does C.C. Sabathia win Cy Young this year?
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:56 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/features/cy

does C.C. Sabathia win Cy Young this year?

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I am a homer but I think he should. Can't say if he will.

If he had even 3 runs of support all year he would be well over 20 wins. His last 10 starts he has given up 0 once, 1 3X and 2 6X, all going at least 6IP. But he only went 3-3 with 4 NDs in those games.

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Old 09-10-2007, 05:30 PM
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if he doesn't, him and fausto should at least be top 5...

and the late 80's browns were the first time i cried over sports...the other were the '99 indians, and by that time, i was probably too old to cry over sports..
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:33 PM
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It's too early to say that there's an obvious AL Cy Young candidate. With so many guys with reasonable cases one bad start would be enough to remove Sabathia from the running.

If the season ended today, nobody would get very angry if he won. Given that Cleveland never wins a goddamn thing, please, please, please.
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:53 PM
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I really don't know if this makes me a d-bag or not, but even as a diehard Indians fan, I don't really want CC winning the Cy Young award.

He's one year away from free agency and that Cy Young award may boost his salary 3-4 million per year. Then again, if he wins it it's not like I'll be mad.

Best case scenario: just give it to Fausty.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:47 PM
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I really don't know if this makes me a d-bag or not, but even as a diehard Indians fan, I don't really want CC winning the Cy Young award.

He's one year away from free agency and that Cy Young award may boost his salary 3-4 million per year. Then again, if he wins it it's not like I'll be mad.

Best case scenario: just give it to Fausty.

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Wait...you actually think CC is going to re-sign?

Heh, okay. It's way worse for Fausto to win it because it makes his offseason contract more expensive. CC winning it is fine since he'll be gone after 2008 no matter what happens.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:53 PM
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I really don't know if this makes me a d-bag or not, but even as a diehard Indians fan, I don't really want CC winning the Cy Young award.

He's one year away from free agency and that Cy Young award may boost his salary 3-4 million per year. Then again, if he wins it it's not like I'll be mad.

Best case scenario: just give it to Fausty.

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Wait...you actually think CC is going to re-sign?

Heh, okay. It's way worse for Fausto to win it because it makes his offseason contract more expensive. CC winning it is fine since he'll be gone after 2008 no matter what happens.

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Offseason contract? He's getting paid the minimum until 2010 and won't be a free agent until 2013.

I honestly believe there's a chance C.C. stays with us. I think a 4 years, $64-68 million number would maybe sway him, and I'd think Shap would do it. Win the Cy Young award, OTOH, and that balloons up to the $19-20 mill a year range, IMO.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:00 PM
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There's a reasonable chance that Sabathia stays with Cleveland, but he has to sign the contract this offseason.
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