60k "Staking" dispute

[bkholdem]

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boosted you clearly had the intent to deceive OP in order to get him to pay for your freeroll. you're trash.

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I love how he goes into these details (convenient, since it is after the fact):

"I'm sure we would've been able to come up with a reasonable decision of how long I was to be staked for. I was planning to be staked for probably at least a month though, so I would've been able to play at least $40k hands I would say.


'we would have'... "I was just about to suggest some reasonable details after pushing all in blind with the whole stake" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

.. um... probably at least a month... LMAO hahaha

[johnnyrocket]

i would never give someone this amount of money that i didnt know extremely well, especially if its a lot to u

[MychCumstien]

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Filth-

I'll put up the makup stake, and we'll chop the 60k 50/50. Deal?

-Neutrality

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this seems like a resolution, especially coming from BoostedJ's friend

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Agreed. OP you are one naive MOFO IMO. Wrong me once, it's your fault. Wrong me twice...

If the first 30k was truly a loan and not converted into a stake as indicated by the OP, then there is no way that your 50/50 chop of the 60k is reasonable. If anything, you're just getting screwed out of at least 15k here. And having one of Boosted's buddies come to your "aid", is nothing more than screwing you further. If you don't see this, then I hate to say it, but you get what you deserve.

As for Boosted, well this whole thread is a bit one sided, not in your favor. My advice to you (not that you're asking), is to clear this up equitably, and expeditiously. Plus, shed some more light from your side. There's obviously 2 sides to every story. The jury's still out on this one, but the OP's original post makes you look like a piece of s**t. If you don't want this to tarnish your rep, as I'm sure you don't, then you should come clean. And further, make a "fair" arrangement with the OP. From an outsider's perspective, this thread is very damaging to your rep right now.

[HP]

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so I would've been able to play at least $40k hands I would say.

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Inquiring minds wish to know how you reconcile this statement with "100% no risk"

Or is this one of those things where "obviously I didn't mean 100% no risk. I meant like 95%"

[iceman5]

BoostedJ,

There is alot of confusion here, but there are several things that are very clear.

1) Most people have a high opinion of your poker talents
2) You care deeply about your reputation in the poker community
3) The overwelming percentage of people reading this thread (including me) are of the opinion that you scammed the OP. That doesnt mean you did it intentionally. It means that he got the raw end of the deal.

Add #2 and #3 together and you should be making every attempt to fix the situation. You should go out of your way to publicly make the situation right. Now if you dont give a [censored] about what people think and you truly believe you did nothing wrong, then dont worry about it. But you obviously DO care what your peers think and they think you did something shady (even if it was unintentional), so you need to right the wrong.

Maybe youve already done righted the wrong since some deal was made with OP, but there also seems to be some question in peoples minds whether or not that deal was totally fair to OP. I dont know enough of the details to give an opinion on that so I wont.

PS..It seems a bit suspicious to me that you didnt want your name "outted" to the community. If you truly believed you were in the right, why would you care if anyone knew it was you? Or was it just that you didnt want anyone knowing you needed a stake?

[NLSoldier]

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Yoguh knew this was a stake, he's staked people before, so he obviously knows how staking works, and that's what I assumed with reasonable evidence of him staking others before, so he cant really play dumb and not know what staking was

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I have staked and been staked numerous times before. I had never heard the term "makeup" until this thread.

[Boosted J]

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so I would've been able to play at least $40k hands I would say.

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Inquiring minds wish to know how you reconcile this statement with "100% no risk"

Or is this one of those things where "obviously I didn't mean 100% no risk. I meant like 95%"

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According to general poker theory, winning players will eventually win. There are HOURS more of conversation between me and yoguh, which I know includes me telling him repeatedly that as long as he has a big enough bankroll, and I can stay in this game, I will eventually start winning. I told him that over and over, but obviously he doesnt want to include the other parts of the conversation. Unfortunately, I dont have AIM set up to log convos. Only he had it.

[Boosted J]

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BoostedJ,

There is alot of confusion here, but there are several things that are very clear.

1) Most people have a high opinion of your poker talents
2) You care deeply about your reputation in the poker community
3) The overwelming percentage of people reading this thread (including me) are of the opinion that you scammed the OP. That doesnt mean you did it intentionally. It means that he got the raw end of the deal.

Add #2 and #3 together and you should be making every attempt to fix the situation. You should go out of your way to publicly make the situation right. Now if you dont give a [censored] about what people think and you truly believe you did nothing wrong, then dont worry about it. But you obviously DO care what your peers think and they think you did something shady (even if it was unintentional), so you need to right the wrong.

Maybe youve already done righted the wrong since some deal was made with OP, but there also seems to be some question in peoples minds whether or not that deal was totally fair to OP. I dont know enough of the details to give an opinion on that so I wont.

PS..It seems a bit suspicious to me that you didnt want your name "outted" to the community. If you truly believed you were in the right, why would you care if anyone knew it was you? Or was it just that you didnt want anyone knowing you needed a stake?

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I dont like my name around any sort of controversy regardless, because there's no good to it. Shady is a really bad term to use if it was unintentional(which if there was any wrong doing done, it was unintentional). Shady is when someone hides the truth and tries to scheme, and that's certainly NOT what I did. By the way, yoguh suggest the deal that we already agreed to. So what, am I going to get blamed for something he suggested now if people think it's unfair?

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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There are HOURS more of conversation between me and yoguh, which I know includes me telling him repeatedly that as long as he has a big enough bankroll, and I can stay in this game, I will eventually start winning.

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Um...you play one of the swingier styles out there. Did you mention that the bankroll he would need to have allocated just for bankrolling you to guarantee you see a positive return is probably, at the minimum, 300k? You think he thought he was signing up for that?

OP: YOU GOT BOOOOOOOOOOOOSTED!

[wtfsvi]

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If you truly believed you were in the right, why would you care if anyone knew it was you?

[/ QUOTE ] Also why did you defend yourself in this thread if you didn't want anyone to know it was you? Did you expect the OP to not out you while you were defending your own position under cover?