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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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  #1841  
Old 10-22-2007, 01:32 PM
dipstikdave dipstikdave is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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First orbit at the table... no history with SB. This is totally standard, yes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.50
UTG+1: $38.65
CO: $93.65
Hero: $98.50
SB: $52.75
BB: $100.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $27</font>, Hero folds.

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looks standard to me, but i am a nit &amp; fold pf til i have reads on the blinds.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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First orbit at the table... no history with SB. This is totally standard, yes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.50
UTG+1: $38.65
CO: $93.65
Hero: $98.50
SB: $52.75
BB: $100.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $27</font>, Hero folds.

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Seems good with no reads yet.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: $25NL top pair turns 2 pair

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I think I need a lesson on what these stats mean:

low VPIP means tight so if they're in the hand they likely have a hand, while high VPIP means loose and they could have anything.

If pfr% is low, when they raise they likely have a hand, if it is high and they raise they could have anything.

If Tot Aggression is same as pfr, but relates to all streets.

Is this correct or is their more to it?

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The post flop aggression factor is something like a ratio of raises and bets vs calls. An aggression factor of 1 is not very high which means that guy probably has you beat.

and yes , you have the right ideas on vpip and pfr.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:49 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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looks standard to me, but i am a nit &amp; fold pf til i have reads on the blinds.

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What kind of read are you looking for on the blinds before deciding to open this from the button?

(Serious question, not a ball bust.)
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:56 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default Re: $25NL top pair turns 2 pair

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I think I need a lesson on what these stats mean:

low VPIP means tight so if they're in the hand they likely have a hand, while high VPIP means loose and they could have anything.

If pfr% is low, when they raise they likely have a hand, if it is high and they raise they could have anything.

If Tot Aggression is same as pfr, but relates to all streets.

Is this correct or is their more to it?

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The post flop aggression factor is something like a ratio of raises and bets vs calls. An aggression factor of 1 is not very high which means that guy probably has you beat.

and yes , you have the right ideas on vpip and pfr.

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Here is a good post about aggession factor.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:57 PM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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looks standard to me, but i am a nit &amp; fold pf til i have reads on the blinds.

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What kind of read are you looking for on the blinds before deciding to open this from the button?

(Serious question, not a ball bust.)

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I used to play like that - waiting for reads before opening with marginal hands. I found that I would get less action with good hands and I'd get run over by aggressive players when I had marginal hands.

I now prefer to establish an aggressive preflop image earlier when I'm new at a table and I'll be careful not to overplay a marginal hand (like the one Slim posted) after the flop. This is getting me paid more often when I hit a big hand.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: $25NL top pair turns 2 pair

Keep in mind that Aggression factor means different things for different players. A 15% VPIP player with an aggression factor of 1 is way different from a 50% VPIP player with an AF of 1. They both call as much as they bet, but the 50% player is going to have much weaker hands most of the time.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:10 PM
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First orbit at the table... no history with SB. This is totally standard, yes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.50
UTG+1: $38.65
CO: $93.65
Hero: $98.50
SB: $52.75
BB: $100.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $6, SB folds, BB raises to $27, Hero folds.

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Fine. Flop check is also good imo.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:32 PM
dipstikdave dipstikdave is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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looks standard to me, but i am a nit &amp; fold pf til i have reads on the blinds.

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What kind of read are you looking for on the blinds before deciding to open this from the button?

(Serious question, not a ball bust.)

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idk, i just like to establish a tight image for the first few orbits. i've been playing nl25 tho' mostly where there are a lot of calling stations, and nittier seems to work better for me. at nl100 or higher i would raise this every time. that's why i initially said it was standard.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:28 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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First orbit at the table... no history with SB. This is totally standard, yes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.50
UTG+1: $38.65
CO: $93.65
Hero: $98.50
SB: $52.75
BB: $100.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $27</font>, Hero folds.

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yep.
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