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check/call 1 8.33%
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  #1831  
Old 10-21-2007, 11:26 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: $25NL top pair turns 2 pair

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villain is 40/19/1 31 hands. How's my line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($13.95)
Button ($39.75)
Hero ($38.20)
BB ($20.85)
UTG ($25.65)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($18.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($5.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $10.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25.5</font>, UTG calls $13.40 (All-In).

River: ($53.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $53.30

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Fold flop. Villains like this don't do that with a flush draw.

Once you called, the rest is fine. I could certainly see him have QQ+ here.
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  #1832  
Old 10-21-2007, 11:28 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: $25NL top pair w/ Nut Flush draw

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Villain is 37/5/0... how is this line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($9.30)
CO ($8.65)
Button ($24.15)
Hero ($30.80)
BB ($30.15)
UTG ($11.30)
UTG+1 ($29.70)
MP1 ($21.60)
MP2 ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.40) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $24.75</font>, Hero calls $9.75.

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I'd lead the flop. As played, I just call the re-raise and hope the initial raiser comes along with a worse FD.
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  #1833  
Old 10-21-2007, 11:29 PM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Default Re: $25NL top pair turns 2 pair

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villain is 40/19/1 31 hands. How's my line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($13.95)
Button ($39.75)
Hero ($38.20)
BB ($20.85)
UTG ($25.65)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($18.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($5.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $10.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25.5</font>, UTG calls $13.40 (All-In).

River: ($53.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $53.30

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I think I fold the flop vs a guy with an aggression factor of 1 when he reraises here.
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  #1834  
Old 10-21-2007, 11:29 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: $25NL QQ v 2 villains drawy board K high

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How's is this line? Ok to call small turn bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($25)
Button ($25.25)
SB ($7.20)
BB ($6.35)
UTG ($26.55)
Hero ($26.10)
MP1 ($23.05)
MP2 ($24.80)
MP3 ($38.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $1.25, CO (poster) calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP3 calls $2, CO calls $2.

Turn: ($10.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $2.75</font>, CO calls $2.75, Hero calls $2.75.

River: ($18.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: $18.35

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I'd check the flop and re-evaluate from there. Calling the small turn bet is ok, but I doubt your ahead often.
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  #1835  
Old 10-21-2007, 11:31 PM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default Re: $25NL top pair w/ Nut Flush draw

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Villain is 37/5/0... how is this line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($9.30)
CO ($8.65)
Button ($24.15)
Hero ($30.80)
BB ($30.15)
UTG ($11.30)
UTG+1 ($29.70)
MP1 ($21.60)
MP2 ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.40) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $24.75</font>, Hero calls $9.75.

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lead the flop, you want to at least build a pot on the flop as you have tp and the nut fd. That is a really good flop for you fyi.
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  #1836  
Old 10-21-2007, 11:52 PM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Default Re: $25NL top pair w/ Nut Flush draw

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Villain is 37/5/0... how is this line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($9.30)
CO ($8.65)
Button ($24.15)
Hero ($30.80)
BB ($30.15)
UTG ($11.30)
UTG+1 ($29.70)
MP1 ($21.60)
MP2 ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.40) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $24.75</font>, Hero calls $9.75.

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lead the flop, you want to at least build a pot on the flop as you have tp and the nut fd. That is a really good flop for you fyi.

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Its about the best possible flop you could hope for.

Who folds or reraises preflop here?
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  #1837  
Old 10-21-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

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well i dont personally like the 3-bet this deep, but i dont see why our preflop action means we have to do one thing or the other on the flop. Like come up with a range of hands that someone will call a bet/3-bet with after they c/r the flop, then come up with a range of hands they will bet 2 streets with after we check flop. Im pretty sure if the ranges are reasonable you'll see that our equity in a 400bb pot vs. the range of hands for them to c/r and call a 3-bet is actually less $ than our equity in a 200bb pot vs the second range.

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did i do it right. i think the river might be a fold tho
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  #1838  
Old 10-22-2007, 12:02 AM
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Villain is 37/5/0... how is this line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($9.30)
CO ($8.65)
Button ($24.15)
Hero ($30.80)
BB ($30.15)
UTG ($11.30)
UTG+1 ($29.70)
MP1 ($21.60)
MP2 ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.40) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $24.75</font>, Hero calls $9.75.

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lead the flop, you want to at least build a pot on the flop as you have tp and the nut fd. That is a really good flop for you fyi.

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Its about the best possible flop you could hope for.

Who folds or reraises preflop here?

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I'll mostly rr pf, but vs a 37/5 where I've been active I could see calling pf.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:56 AM
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First orbit at the table... no history with SB. This is totally standard, yes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.50
UTG+1: $38.65
CO: $93.65
Hero: $98.50
SB: $52.75
BB: $100.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $27</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:23 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $25NL top pair turns 2 pair

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villain is 40/19/1 31 hands. How's my line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($13.95)
Button ($39.75)
Hero ($38.20)
BB ($20.85)
UTG ($25.65)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($18.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($5.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $10.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25.5</font>, UTG calls $13.40 (All-In).

River: ($53.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $53.30

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I think I fold the flop vs a guy with an aggression factor of 1 when he reraises here.

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I think I need a lesson on what these stats mean:

low VPIP means tight so if they're in the hand they likely have a hand, while high VPIP means loose and they could have anything.

If pfr% is low, when they raise they likely have a hand, if it is high and they raise they could have anything.

If Tot Aggression is same as pfr, but relates to all streets.

Is this correct or is their more to it?
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