SSNL POKER [cheese] thread JULY PT 2

[Imrahil]

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sfadgaghqanhedrwdfq/a.aehsah, Imra. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAADDSSS. 1k hands should give you some idea of his 3betting range.

Anyway, as a default I wouldn't stick it in against someone with an 11 PFR.

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I think a lot of hands are from datamining.

[Poker_is_Hard]

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Guys is this standard? Villain is 23/11/3.75 over 1k hands. Pretty obvious he had AA or KK though.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $188.35
BB: $200.00
UTG: $172.90
<u>Hero (MP): $295.90</u>
CO: $200.00
<u>BTN: $221.50</u>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $295.90</font>

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Unless you have some sort of read that he has be 3betting you light, this is not standard at all.

Why Shove? Standard IMO, is 4bet and fold to a shove.

leveling?

[Abramovic]

4bet and fold to a shove is pretty bad Poker. You might aswell be doing it with junk here. OOP v this guy the first time he 3bets me I probably fold.

[Imrahil]

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Guys is this standard? Villain is 23/11/3.75 over 1k hands. Pretty obvious he had AA or KK though.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $188.35
BB: $200.00
UTG: $172.90
<u>Hero (MP): $295.90</u>
CO: $200.00
<u>BTN: $221.50</u>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $295.90</font>

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Unless you have some sort of read that he has be 3betting you light, this is not standard at all.

Why Shove? Standard IMO, is 4bet and fold to a shove.

leveling?

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4bet/fold to shove is truly horrific.

[dirtylobster]

Here's my month so far (started a new database halfway)..

1-8 july (lots of NL200-tables w/ tilt &amp; running bad):





9-24 july (2 days of running/playing like [censored] at NL200 and the rest from hand 7k is NL100). Hand ~6.4k is set over set vs. donkey at NL400.




I'm finally in the <font color="green">GREEN </font>! I've also been playing NL200 again exclusively for the last two days.

First 33k hands are mostly NL200, the last 11k are NL100 (except for the last 1k which are NL200).

Gonna continue to run and play good an make this a decent month! GOGOGO!

[deaders]

Being freshly back in the world of pokertracker and datamining Im kinda suprised to see a fair few people with stats like 12/6, 10/7 over 1000s of hands. I even saw one guy who was 6/6 over 400 hands.

What I dont get is why?? They are obviously playing to make money, but to make even a bit you would have to play some seriously long hours, long boring tedious hours folding 90% of the cards you are dealt. You have to wonder how they do make money because who would actually pay these guys off?

[pdoran10]

Abusing other TAGs with RR deep until they pop is fun. also, lol i love nl200.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($397.30)
Hero ($648.15)
BB ($200)
UTG ($232.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $24.

Flop: ($66) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, Button calls $38.

Turn: ($142) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($142) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $578.15 (All-In)</font>, Button calls $327.30 (All-In).

Final Pot: $796.60

Results in white below:
Button has 9d 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Hero has Js Qs (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Hero wins $1047.45.

[deaders]

gross, its like a lesson how to most effectively [censored] up top set in a deepstacked 3-bet pot.

[dirtylobster]

Lol @ villains line.

[Poker_is_Hard]

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Guys is this standard? Villain is 23/11/3.75 over 1k hands. Pretty obvious he had AA or KK though.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $188.35
BB: $200.00
UTG: $172.90
<u>Hero (MP): $295.90</u>
CO: $200.00
<u>BTN: $221.50</u>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $295.90</font>

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Unless you have some sort of read that he has be 3betting you light, this is not standard at all.

Why Shove? Standard IMO, is 4bet and fold to a shove.

leveling?

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4bet/fold to shove is truly horrific.

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So call and c/f an air mailed flop?
Some guy said he would fold... That seems even crazier.
Shoving seems bad news.

I don't see why a light 4bet and fold to a shove is so bad. If he shoves on your 4bet that really tightens his range to I think QQ+, AK.. weighted toward KK+.

Can someone run that in stove. What is our equity against that range?