report: Cubs sign Soriano. 8yr 136m. - Page 18

TheRover · #**171** 11-21-2006, 07:05 PM

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1. It is better than the typical Cubs free-agent signing. I remeber the days when, instead of paying big bucks for the top guy, the Cubs would pay close to that amount for someone not even close to the ability.

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so this is a typical cubs free agent signing.

kyleb · #**172** 11-21-2006, 07:25 PM

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1. It is better than the typical Cubs free-agent signing. I remeber the days when, instead of paying big bucks for the top guy, the Cubs would pay close to that amount for someone not even close to the ability.

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Guess what - they just did that!

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If Hendry had signed Drew, I am sure he would have gotten slammed for signing an injury prone player after the Cubs had injury problems last year.

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Not from anyone intelligent here.

Propertarian · #**173** 11-22-2006, 02:48 PM

One of my favorite players of all-time ponders rejoining the Cubs.

He's still better than Meche or Batista. A lot more fun to watch too.

crockpot · #**174** 11-22-2006, 03:01 PM

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1. It is better than the typical Cubs free-agent signing. I remeber the days when, instead of paying big bucks for the top guy, the Cubs would pay close to that amount for someone not even close to the ability. (e.g. Henry Rodriguez, Danny Jackson, Rondell White, Luis Gonzales (pre-Roids), etc.)

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that's one of the most impressive lists i've ever seen. not because the players suck, but because only one of the four actually came to the cubs as a free agent.

Quinn Warren · #**175** 11-23-2006, 01:47 AM

ARGH!

Looks like Schmidt to the Dodgers could be a done deal soon.

wisehandpoker · #**176** 11-23-2006, 02:31 AM

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1. It is better than the typical Cubs free-agent signing. I remeber the days when, instead of paying big bucks for the top guy, the Cubs would pay close to that amount for someone not even close to the ability. (e.g. Henry Rodriguez, Danny Jackson, Rondell White, Luis Gonzales (pre-Roids), etc.)

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that's one of the most impressive lists i've ever seen. not because the players suck, but because only one of the four actually came to the cubs as a free agent.

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lol

wisehandpoker · #**177** 11-23-2006, 02:32 AM

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ARGH!

Looks like Schmidt to the Dodgers could be a done deal soon.

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source?

sublime · #**178** 11-23-2006, 03:10 AM

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His skills are no where near declining yet.

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he had a .309 OBP in 2005.

POINT THREE OH NINE!

obviously you cant ignore last year, but you cant ignore the year before that.

Quinn Warren · #**179** 11-23-2006, 03:47 AM

My source is a scout for the Dodgers. They are ironing out details right now, according to him.

DesertCat · #**180** 11-23-2006, 12:06 PM

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The 2006 average salary in MLB was $2.9 million. Taking into consideration how players in the first few years are grossly underpaid based on perfromance (extreme example: Ryan Howard's salary is $355,000), the average free agent player's salary must have been over $3M and approaching $4M. Pierre was paid $5.75M last year by the Cubs.

It'll be interesting to see how fast the average salary breaks $4M, $5M, and $6M in the next few years.

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I once did an analysis of draft pick contracts using average player salaries to show that rising salaries had made giving Stephen Drew a $5M contract a no brainer for the Diamondbacks. People were too hung up on what the maximum previous contract was, without factoring in the greater financial value a player has today if they make the majors.

I think to analyse the value of player signings a rough logical framework could be something like expected WARP per average salary units. This would give you a framework to compare Soriano's signing comparable to big signings of the past.

Since I've already done this once before, and I'm lazy, I nominate Dynasty to analyse this.