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#1781
10-20-2007, 10:36 PM
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$25NL trips w/ good kicker
villain was 52/0/0 27 hands. How's my line?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Button ($8.65) Hero ($27.05) BB ($23.65) UTG ($13) UTG+1 ($45.50) MP1 ($30.60) MP2 ($27.65) CO ($14) Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: ($0.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks. Turn: ($0.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $1</font>, Hero calls $1, BB folds. River: ($2.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $25</font>, Hero calls $10. Final Pot: $52.75 
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#1782
10-20-2007, 10:50 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
Re: Cha's A9s hand.
Don't 3bet preflop for at least these 2 reasons. 1) Villain's pfr is 8% and he's raising UTG. A9s is behind the top 8% and doesn't play well in a 3bet pot. 2) Villain's stack size makes this very awkward postflop
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#1784
10-20-2007, 10:54 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
Re: Cha's AJs hand
I usually muck this until I know this guy can get out of line 3betting light, especially BvB. I'm basically never calling usually 4betting or folding based on flow and recent history.
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#1785
10-20-2007, 10:55 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
[ QUOTE ]
Re: Cha's A9s hand. Don't 3bet preflop for at least these 2 reasons. 1) Villain's pfr is 8% and he's raising UTG. A9s is behind the top 8% and doesn't play well in a 3bet pot. 2) Villain's stack size makes this very awkward postflop [/ QUOTE ] 1 - I should have mentioned, UTG folded every time I 3 bet. I was pretty sure either he'd fold or I'd know where I was if he continued. 2 - Yes it does. Thats why I posted the hand. I should clarify, UTG folded here for those that missed it. UTG raised and he is NOT villain. Villain is SB.
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#1786
10-20-2007, 11:05 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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1 - I should have mentioned, UTG folded every time I 3 bet. I was pretty sure either he'd fold or I'd know where I was if he continued. [/ QUOTE ] Well doesn't that answer your question about what to do on the flop then? His range crushes your hand and I would bet he CRAI with most of his range here. You're turning A9s into a bluff. Basically you're banking purely on FE preflop which with his stats, position, and the fact that you've been 3betting him before I don't think you have much of. The awkward stack sizes argument in my mind kind of combines with other things. You're always going to be behind when called, but I don't think he has enough chips for you to get him off better hands often postflop.
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#1787
10-20-2007, 11:11 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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Re: Cha's A9s hand. Don't 3bet preflop for at least these 2 reasons. 1) Villain's pfr is 8% and he's raising UTG. A9s is behind the top 8% and doesn't play well in a 3bet pot. 2) Villain's stack size makes this very awkward postflop [/ QUOTE ] I personally don't 3-bet suited As in position. I flat call, and get myself in lots of fun spots postflop. But, I also agree with blackize's post.
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#1788
10-20-2007, 11:23 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Re: Cha's A9s hand. Don't 3bet preflop for at least these 2 reasons. 1) Villain's pfr is 8% and he's raising UTG. A9s is behind the top 8% and doesn't play well in a 3bet pot. 2) Villain's stack size makes this very awkward postflop [/ QUOTE ] I personally don't 3-bet suited As in position. I flat call, and get myself in lots of fun spots postflop. But, I also agree with blackize's post. [/ QUOTE ] You are aware that UTG folded as expected and SB is villain? Also my raises had been getting respect from the other people left to act in this hand.
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#1789
10-20-2007, 11:27 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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You are aware that UTG folded as expected and SB is villain? [/ QUOTE ] My bad I missed that. I still don't like 3betting in this hand though unless UTG is like 60/40. Not sure how to handle the flop now, I usually just bet, but I don't know if that's right.
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#1790
10-20-2007, 11:35 PM
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
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[ QUOTE ] You are aware that UTG folded as expected and SB is villain? [/ QUOTE ] My bad I missed that. I still don't like 3betting in this hand though unless UTG is like 60/40. Not sure how to handle the flop now, I usually just bet, but I don't know if that's right. [/ QUOTE ] I think my 3 bet of UTG's minraise was correct. He had folded every time I had raised one of his minbets previously. He minbet a lot. The blinds respected my raises generally prior to this hand. I have A9s and I'm on the button. I think this raise was fine and I want to talk about what to do on the flop given my reads now.
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