** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **

[D.L.M.]

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The simple version is that each opponent has ~1/220 chance of having aces. (This version is skewed slightly). Therefore, there is an 8/220 chance that an opponent has aces, or 1/27.5.

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this method is worthless, wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooorthless. Hey i made 500 today so far. TIme for zanex and another 500. woooot woooot

[the_main]

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1/65 times you get KK someone else at the table should have AA


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That's wrong.

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Why no explanation of why?

P.S. I just played a hand the worst I have ever played any hand. Period.

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post it

[twoblacknines]

hilarious...

PokerStars Game #11513155690: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/08/16 - 01:53:40 (ET)
Table 'Bredichina' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: TheYeti ($228.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Aanything ($379 in chips)
Seat 3: neverbluff00 ($665.50 in chips)
Seat 4: diman99 ($115.75 in chips)
Seat 5: devolve ($198.80 in chips)
Seat 6: Marlin Max ($71.75 in chips)
Seat 7: iceoholic ($103.80 in chips)
devolve: posts small blind $1
Marlin Max: posts big blind $2
meracer: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to devolve [5s 7d]
iceoholic: folds
TheYeti: folds
Aanything: calls $2
neverbluff00: calls $2
diman99: folds
devolve: calls $1
Marlin Max: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 3s 2c]
devolve: checks
Marlin Max: checks
Aanything: bets $2
neverbluff00: raises $2 to $4
devolve: calls $4
Marlin Max: folds
Aanything: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4s 3s 2c] [Jc]
devolve: checks
Aanything: checks
neverbluff00: bets $10
devolve: calls $10
Aanything: folds
*** RIVER *** [4s 3s 2c Jc] [Js]
devolve: bets $31
neverbluff00: folds
devolve collected $38.05 from pot
devolve: doesn't show hand

neverbluff00: u should not be proud of the way u played ur draw devolve, not ur type
neverbluff00: and not profitable
devolve: lol

[TheProdigy]

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1/65 times you get KK someone else at the table should have AA


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That's wrong.

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Why no explanation of why?

P.S. I just played a hand the worst I have ever played any hand. Period.

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post it

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Main; since you put me on 77 on the one hand with you, where you actually somewhat slowplaying on the turn? Scary way to play it. I obv don't think you played it bad only said it was sick if you somehow had AK.

Here is the hand:
Player was 17/11/5 over a good sample. Very aggressive, and had 3-bet me twice before. I put him on a couple hands throughout the hand if I remember correctly without looking at it
P.S. After nearly 2k hands tonight I finally hit my first hand over 2pr by showdown(set), $233 pot I won so decent..only down $400 now

My thoughts on hand:
Preflop: anything
Flop: Ax+, any PP
Turn: He slows down with AJ+ here for some pot control cause he thinks he might win this, but I think he bets A2-A9 still, still think 1010-KK are double barreled by him so they are still in range.
River: Ok, He can't be valuebetting any ace. He either has KK-QQ, or a missed flush draw which I didn't put him on at first, but it looks like he has something like that.

P.S. I think he slows down with a set as well but iunno anymore.

I'll leave off results so ppl give me some advice and guesses on his hand first

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $246.40
BB: $82.40
UTG: $409.15
UTG+1: $117.00
MP1: $121.70
Hero (MP2): $211.00
MP3: $116.80
CO: $193.00
BTN: $148.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $20.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $12.00

Flop: ($43) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $22.00</font>, Hero calls $22.00

Turn: ($87) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $42.00</font>, Hero calls $42.00

River: ($171) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $72.00</font>, Hero calls $72.00

Pot Size: $315.00 ($3 Rake)

[1p0kerboy]

Isn't it funny how you can take a hand out of context and make it look like you play bad?

[TheProdigy]

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Isn't it funny how you can take a hand out of context and make it look like you play bad?

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Huh? I don't understand. I played it bad, and I play bad period. Let's keep both these things in mind whilst analyzing and scrutinizing my play.

[the_main]

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Main; since you put me on 77 on the one hand with you, where you actually somewhat slowplaying on the turn? Scary way to play it. I obv don't think you played it bad only said it was sick if you somehow had AK.

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Controlling pot size, as it would suck to get raised. Also, check/calling turns with good hands makes it tougher for you to float me.

[iponnet]

if I am gona call a 3bet with A10s I am going for some sort of combo draw which I can push this hand with other wise I probably let it go on the turn or checkraise flop....cool if he had QQ/KK though, on the other hand he may have a low PP,since I believe he would 3bet more with AK/AA/KK/QQ

[TheProdigy]

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Main; since you put me on 77 on the one hand with you, where you actually somewhat slowplaying on the turn? Scary way to play it. I obv don't think you played it bad only said it was sick if you somehow had AK.

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Controlling pot size, as it would suck to get raised. Also, check/calling turns with good hands makes it tougher for you to float me.

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Tougher? I don't think before I bet. I generally try to forget every previous hand I've ever played ever before making tough decisions versus regs.

[dw2006]

does anyone wanna do some flipsl, pm me, im looking to do like 5 flips for 100 a piec.... ill do anything though