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check/call | 1 | 8.33% | |
bet/call | 5 | 41.67% | |
bet/3b | 5 | 41.67% | |
check/raise | 1 | 8.33% | |
bet/fold (NITS) | 0 | 0% | |
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#1761
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
calling is fine. Even though the overbet is usually the nutz.
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#1762
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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calling is fine. Even though the overbet is usually the nutz. [/ QUOTE ] then why would calling be fine |
#1763
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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[ QUOTE ] Pretty ugly slim. I just fold preflop. I have a very narrow calling range from the blinds. oop sucks. [/ QUOTE ] Just to provide you some numbers. This is from my 36,000 hands this month. Folded SB to Steal: 87.09% Folded BB to Steal: 78.75% Folded BB to Steal HU: 78.10% I assume these are consistent with most. I think the "folded to bb steal" is yet so large because of all the foolios who min-raise, and I just can't seem to fold K2s to such good odds (especially multi-way). [/ QUOTE ] OK, well for 21k hands since I started taking cash at all seriously... Folded SB to Steal: 86.12% Folded BB to Steal: 70.73% Folded BB to Steal HU: 67.84% I'll be more selective from the blinds. Thanks for the tip. |
#1764
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
BB ($256.85) Hero ($226.45) MP ($256.20) CO ($292.70) Button ($148.50) SB ($239.65) Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6. Flop: ($25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, Button calls $18, BB folds. Turn: ($61) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, Button folds. this is more of a general theory question. in hands where we have solid holdings on the flop, and the turn completes a draw, what do you guys thing villain is calling the turn with ? here is what i came up with: sometimes they call with the nuts (slowplay) sometimes they called the flop with a weakish hand they're not calling two barrels with, but might be calling a river bet if we check the turn example: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP ($311.35) Hero ($529.10) SB ($217.15) BB ($200) UTG ($258) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6. Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, BB calls $13. Turn: ($43) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, Hero checks. River: ($43) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $21</font>, BB calls $21. Final Pot: $85 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> BB has 6c 6h (two pair, sixes and twos). Hero has Qs Td (two pair, queens and twos). Outcome: Hero wins $85. </font> sometimes they raise our 2nd barrel on a very scary board, which although our hand has improved, we can't really continue sometimes (best case scenario) they call 3 streets with their KJ/KT hand (referring to hand above) so i guess bet/fold the turn for value/protection is the best play |
#1765
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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[ QUOTE ] calling is fine. Even though the overbet is usually the nutz. [/ QUOTE ] then why would calling be fine [/ QUOTE ] Because it can be the air, and some of these guys think a J high flush is the nutz. |
#1766
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
thoughts on this please
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com Button ($272) SB ($392) BB ($487.50) UTG ($741.10) Hero ($421.70) CO ($618.30) Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, CO calls $16, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($38) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $72</font>, Hero calls $52. Turn: ($182) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $124</font>, Hero calls $124. River: ($430) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $212</font>. Hero |
#1767
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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thoughts on this please Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com Button ($272) SB ($392) BB ($487.50) UTG ($741.10) Hero ($421.70) CO ($618.30) Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, CO calls $16, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($38) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $72</font>, Hero calls $52. Turn: ($182) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $124</font>, Hero calls $124. River: ($430) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $212</font>. Hero [/ QUOTE ] On the plus side, you beat QT. |
#1768
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why insta check turn? worried about AK until he chacks river? [/ QUOTE ] def not worried about AK, just trying to get more money out of worse hands [/ QUOTE ] It was part of my 'plan'. The raise on the flop was suppose to look like a bluff. So, I thought the check behind would look like I'd given up. After chatting with my coach about this hand last night, he thinks I should be betting the turn to get my stack in on the the river though. Said I was just being a tricky donk [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] i had similar thoughts. if villain is calling that flop and river with a worse hand, then you may be losing value by not betting the turn. |
#1769
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$25NL hit straight, now what
OK, one of these hands was real, but it made me wonder if I should handle other straights differently. How would you play the hand in each of these three different scenerios?
Also, CO seamed fine, not a fish, not a pro. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($34.45) BB ($34.10) UTG ($14.10) UTG+1 ($14.75) MP1 ($24) MP2 ($14.30) CO ($63.55) Button ($36.10) Senerio 1... Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Senerio 2... Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Senerio 3... Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.75. Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75, UTG folds. Turn: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $13.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32.7</font>, CO calls $18.95. River: ($70.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $70.15 |
#1770
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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what
I'd fold pre with JTs.
I'd raise or fold 55, and ATs on the flop. Depends on villain how I play JTs on the flop. |
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