** Official June Chat Thread: The Flush ** - Page 171

Kos13 · #**1701** 06-24-2007, 03:51 AM

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btw thats the 2nd time i had quad kings today
also had quad aces

2k hands

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I've had a straight flush in a big pot twice in two days. It's just too bad that I folded pre-flop both times. [censored] you, suited bookends.

SimaoMacaco · #**1702** 06-24-2007, 04:59 AM

Clearly the flop a set meter indicates that the poker site is rigged.

crucialshipment · #**1703** 06-24-2007, 05:34 AM

good lord i run so god awful.

i think i may have been tilting for these two hands, and this is pretty much that worse i ever do.

how do you think i played these two hands?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $15.00
Hero (BB): $23.90
UTG: $14.80
UTG+1: $24.20
MP1: $17.25
MP2: $16.75
CO: $22.45
BTN: $24.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, 5 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG folds, SB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $2.00, Hero raises to $5.00, SB raises to $8.00, Hero raises all-in to $22.40, SB calls all-in for $5.50
Uncalled bet of $8.90 returned to Hero

Turn: ($30.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($30.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $30.25 ($1.50 Rake)

SB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Nine to King) and WON (+$13.75)
[i]Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$15.00)[

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $35.85
BB: $18.15
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $31.25
MP1: $24.90
MP2: $14.65
CO: $13.25
Hero (BTN): $22.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.65, BB calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.50, UTG folds, Hero raises to $6.25, SB folds, BB raises to $11.00, Hero raises all-in to $21.20, BB calls all-in for $5.40
Uncalled bet of $4.80 returned to Hero

Turn: ($40.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($40.30) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $40.30 ($1.95 Rake)

BB had 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$20.20)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$18.15)

and now im back down to 10nl from 100nl all over again. about a 28 buyin downswing (14 at 100nl, 6 at 50nl, 8 at 25nl) over about 25-30k hands. lovely.

i do not understand why i keep losing. i try and i try and i try, and yet i still just lose lose lose. this has been going on for soooo long too. few hundred thousand hands played lifetime, most of which were not while using PT so i cant say for exact certain how they went, but the trend has been 10k hand upswing, 30k hand downswing, 10k up, 30k down, and on and on. this suggests that i play bad, but well, here are all my $50+ lost pots at 100nl on my recent lifetime at stars 12k hand downswing so you can decide for yourself. looking them over, some of my bet sizing is a little weird, but it didn't matter one iota in these instances. bet sizing is kind of a problem i've always figured i have, but it's hard to tell since, when im not afraid of draws, i size bets in teh way i best think villian will pay me off.

i was running around 16/9/1.8, 30% steal attempt during these hands.

this is i think the only one i played quite poorly. however, i was convinced villian was playing back at me since, iirc, this was the third time in a row he had raised my c-bet on the flop. anyways, i was wrong and should have known.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $59.50
BB: $98.00
UTG: $144.85
Hero (UTG+1): $100.00
MP1: $182.40
MP2: $96.00
MP3: $166.60
CO: $49.00
BTN: $155.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $4.00, MP1 calls $4.00, 6 folds

Flop: ($9.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $7.00, MP1 raises to $14.00, Hero raises to $27.00, MP1 calls $13.00

Turn: ($63.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $69.00, MP1 calls $69.00

River: ($201.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $201.50 ($3 Rake)

MP1 had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and WON (+$98.50)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$100.00)

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $139.70
BB: $100.00
UTG: $104.40
UTG+1: $95.35
MP1: $85.35
MP2: $98.00
MP3: $133.30
Hero (CO): $143.40
BTN: $67.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
5 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 2 folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $6.00, Hero raises to $16.00, BB raises all-in to $96.00, Hero calls $80.00

Turn: ($200.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($200.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $200.50 ($3 Rake)

BB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$97.50)
Hero had 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$100.00)

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $28.00
Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $21.10
UTG+1: $116.60
MP1: $22.70
MP2: $240.40
CO: $97.75
BTN: $114.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $1.00, CO raises to $5.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.00, MP2 calls $4.00

Flop: ($15.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($15.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero bets $12.00, MP2 raises to $24.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $36.00, MP2 raises all-in to $235.40, Hero calls all-in for $59.00
Uncalled bet of $140.40 returned to MP2

River: ($205.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $205.50 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Eights full of Sixes) and WON (+$102.50)
Hero had 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Sixes full of Eights) and LOST (-$100.00)

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surprised he didn't show up with AdAx or KdKx. still woulda lost, though.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $148.30
BB: $100.00
UTG: $28.50
UTG+1: $102.95
MP: $100.00
CO: $154.75
Hero (BTN): $98.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.00, MP raises to $5.00, CO folds, Hero calls $5.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($12.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP bets $6.00, Hero raises to $18.00, MP calls $12.00

Turn: ($48.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets all-in for $75.50, MP calls $75.50

River: ($199.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $199.50 ($3 Rake)

MP had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$98.00)
Hero had 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$98.50)

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $107.10
BB: $20.45
UTG: $120.70
UTG+1: $98.00
MP1: $114.50
MP2: $63.95
MP3: $108.60
CO: $106.45
BTN: $92.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
6 folds, BTN raises to $4.00, Hero raises to $12.00, BB folds, BTN calls $8.00

Flop: ($25) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $16.00, BTN calls $16.00

Turn: ($57) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $79.10, BTN calls all-in for $64.85
Uncalled bet of $14.25 returned to Hero

River: ($186.70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $186.70 ($3 Rake)

BTN had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and WON (+$90.85)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and LOST (-$92.85)

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knew he was a nit calling down with his overpair (hence the lighter turn bet), but i didn't know it was that low of an overpair.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $131.90
UTG: $102.50
UTG+1: $102.10
MP1: $231.60
MP2: $56.25
CO: $28.80
BTN: $89.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
5 folds, BTN raises to $3.00, SB folds, Hero raises to $9.00, BTN calls $6.00

Flop: ($18.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $15.00, BTN calls $15.00

Turn: ($48.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $25.00, BTN calls $25.00

River: ($98.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $52.00, BTN calls all-in for $40.00
Uncalled bet of $12.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $178.50 ($3 Rake)

BTN had 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON (+$86.50)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$89.00)

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again, i thought it was most likely he had an overpair so i wasn't really afraid of him betting a draw. dont know quite why i just minraised the flop though. i think i wasn't completely sure where i was at so i didn't know how much of my actions should be in pot controlling or valuing.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $103.50
BB: $155.45
UTG: $88.90
UTG+1: $144.30
Hero (MP1): $99.50
MP2: $44.75
MP3: $28.50
CO: $115.25
BTN: $110.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG raises to $4.00, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $12.00, 6 folds, UTG calls $8.00

Flop: ($25.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG bets $12.00, Hero raises to $24.00, UTG calls $12.00

Turn: ($73.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG bets all-in for $52.90, Hero calls $52.90

River: ($179.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $179.30 ($3 Rake)

UTG had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Six to Ten) and WON (+$87.40)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$88.90)

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $99.30
BB: $132.70
UTG: $20.30
UTG+1: $70.90
Hero (MP): $87.00
CO: $93.35
BTN: $127.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($12) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $9.00, SB folds, BB raises to $28.00, Hero raises all-in to $83.00, BB calls $55.00

Turn: ($178) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($178) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $178.00 ($3 Rake)

BB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Nines) and WON (+$88.00)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$87.00)

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $68.20
BB: $106.05
UTG: $78.50
Hero (UTG+1): $104.05
MP: $39.05
CO: $57.50
BTN: $69.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, Hero raises to $5.00, MP folds, CO calls $5.00, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($16.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12.00, CO folds, UTG raises all-in to $73.50, Hero calls $61.50

Turn: ($163.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($163.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $163.50 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and WON (+$82.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$78.50)

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villian was uber maniacal luckbox who probably wouldn't have called a push but would call the flop with any made hand or draw.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $55.80
Hero (BB): $87.00
UTG: $115.15
UTG+1: $100.75
MP1: $84.95
MP2: $75.15
MP3: $308.75
CO: $15.20
BTN: $119.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, MP2 raises to $10.00, 4 folds, Hero raises to $25.00, MP2 calls $15.00

Flop: ($50.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $62.00, MP2 calls all-in for $50.15
Uncalled bet of $11.85 returned to Hero

Turn: ($150.80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($150.80) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $150.80 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ten high) and WON (+$72.65)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$75.15)

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $71.45
BB: $67.15
Hero (UTG): $99.50
UTG+1: $44.75
MP1: $60.55
MP2: $108.35
CO: $146.20
BTN: $98.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
Hero raises to $4.00, 2 folds, MP2 calls $4.00, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($13) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10.00, MP2 folds, SB calls $10.00

Turn: ($33) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets all-in for $57.45, Hero calls $57.45

River: ($147.90) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $147.90 ($3 Rake)

SB had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$73.45)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$71.45)

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was quite surprised villian didn't show up with a weaker flush or trips. dont know if i could have lost less. calling his river bet seems weak, but folding to the push doesn't seem right either since im getting something like 3 to 1.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $128.80
BB: $66.00
UTG: $90.90
UTG+1: $14.00
MP1: $56.50
Hero (MP2): $78.00
CO: $114.45
BTN: $104.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
3 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.00, BB calls $6.00

Turn: ($20.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($20.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $7.00, Hero raises to $20.00, BB raises all-in to $56.00, Hero calls $36.00

Pot Size: $132.50 ($3 Rake)

BB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (four of a kind, Nines) and WON (+$63.50)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$66.00)

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didn't think pushing the turn was best since i doubted i had the best hand, yet would be up against non-KQ often enough to be able to draw. planned on likely folding river unimproved, but wouldn't know till i got there.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $127.95
BB: $98.50
UTG: $134.40
UTG+1: $42.60
MP1: $82.50
MP2: $172.00
MP3: $285.90
CO: $63.75
BTN: $363.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
5 folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, Hero raises to $5.00, BB folds, CO calls $4.00

Flop: ($11) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $8.00, CO calls $8.00

Turn: ($27) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $14.00, CO raises to $28.00, Hero calls $14.00

River: ($83) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $32.00, CO calls all-in for $22.75
Uncalled bet of $9.25 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $128.50 ($3 Rake)

CO had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Nine to King) and WON (+$61.75)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a straight, Eight to Queen) and LOST (-$63.75)

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if you run as bad as i do you gotta learn how to lose the minimum, amirite?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $93.35
BB: $22.85
UTG: $42.80
UTG+1: $176.25
MP1: $59.00
MP2: $114.30
CO: $155.60
Hero (BTN): $132.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
5 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($9) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.00, SB calls $6.00

Turn: ($21) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13.00, SB raises to $26.00, Hero calls $13.00

River: ($73) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $21.00, Hero calls $21.00

Pot Size: $115.00 ($3 Rake)

SB had 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Eights full of Jacks) and WON (+$55.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$57.00)

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $26.60
BB: $75.75
UTG: $80.00
UTG+1: $58.35
MP1: $68.90
MP2: $56.30
MP3: $400.20
CO: $27.50
Hero (BTN): $95.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, UTG+1 raises to $4.00, MP1 calls $4.00, MP2 calls $4.00, MP3 folds, CO calls $4.00, Hero raises to $24.00, 5 folds, MP2 calls $20.00, CO raises all-in to $27.50, Hero calls $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50

Flop: ($93) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
MP2 bets all-in for $28.80, Hero calls $28.80

Turn: ($150.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($150.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $150.60 ($3 Rake)

CO had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Nine to King) and WON (+$62.50)
MP2 had 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Seven to Jack) and WON (+$1.30)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$56.30)

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villian was about a 50 vpip, and i was positive i was beat once pushed the river, but im getting like a billion to one to call since im so super awesome at value betting earlier streets. why couldn't i have had a flop set turn boat this time? oh yea cuz that almost never happens.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $53.50
BB: $222.55
UTG: $25.35
UTG+1: $53.95
MP: $108.90
Hero (CO): $94.00
BTN: $96.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.00, MP calls $1.00, Hero raises to $6.00, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $5.00, MP folds

Flop: ($14.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10.00, UTG+1 calls $10.00

Turn: ($34.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $25.00, UTG+1 calls $25.00

River: ($84.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 bets all-in for $12.95, Hero calls $12.95

Pot Size: $110.40 ($3 Rake)

UTG+1 had 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Seven to Jack) and WON (+$53.45)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$53.95)

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and this was just bad tilt. coolered so hard i decided to buy in half and felt any good looking big pair.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $134.50
BB: $99.00
UTG: $87.40
UTG+1: $23.35
MP1: $74.10
Hero (MP2): $50.35
MP3: $100.55
CO: $100.80
BTN: $264.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, 5 folds, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($11.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $10.00, UTG raises to $25.00, Hero raises all-in to $45.35, UTG calls $20.35

Turn: ($102.20) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($102.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $102.20 ($3 Rake)

UTG had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$48.85)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$50.35)

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and here's the only hand i got the money in bad (even though the play isn't super horrible) where i sucked out and won.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $107.50
Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $50.20
UTG+1: $101.50
MP: $12.35
CO: $83.20
BTN: $57.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 4 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $6.00, UTG calls $5.00, SB calls $5.00

Flop: ($18) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12.00, UTG raises to $30.00, SB folds, Hero raises to $48.00, UTG calls all-in for $14.20
Uncalled bet of $3.80 returned to Hero

Turn: ($106.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($106.40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $106.40 ($3 Rake)

UTG had 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$50.20)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and WON (+$53.20)

i know i have leaks (duh), but i also know i play good. at least good enough to beat the donkeys at 100nl, yet somehow, it's impossible for me to not lose.

i appreciate any reponses.

Willpower · #**1704** 06-24-2007, 05:58 AM

You really need to pot control with one pair. I only looked at the first 2 hands but in both of them the board is just awful and you are getting 3-bet yet it looks like you can't wait to get your stack in the pot.

the_main · #**1705** 06-24-2007, 06:20 AM

Is this really bad?
500khand sample

crucialshipment · #**1706** 06-24-2007, 06:30 AM

[ QUOTE ]
You really need to pot control with one pair. I only looked at the first 2 hands but in both of them the board is just awful and you are getting 3-bet yet it looks like you can't wait to get your stack in the pot.

[/ QUOTE ]those two hands were non-standard tilt for me. just want to see what better players think of them.

most of the other hands are standard non-tilt, though, and i posted to show how it was at 100nl, unlike the first two at 25nl.

crucialshipment · #**1707** 06-24-2007, 06:33 AM

how the hell do you read that graph?

rosso87 · #**1708** 06-24-2007, 07:50 AM

i agree its confusing as hell.

SimaoMacaco · #**1709** 06-24-2007, 07:59 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Is this really bad?
500khand sample

[/ QUOTE ]

It looks like mine since May (except your sample size is huuuuuuge) and yes its pretty bad. I averaged 42 dollars per set at 200nl, so being 100 short would put you back around 4k. That seems bad to me. Especially if you riase your pairs pretty much always as i do.

It is a shame that standard deviations are not shown as that would help get some hard numbers to add to the sob story. It looks to me to be close to 2 standard devs from the mean, and so represents a 5% chance. Or to put it another way, you could be >95% sure that you should have flopped more sets than you have.

RIGGED!!!

WCGRider · #**1710** 06-24-2007, 08:20 AM

You know whats funny? I look @ my set graph and think wow im lucky compared to most of you guys, but im still WELL UNDER how often i should be flopping sets. 3.3 flops, 360 sets.

14 sets vs overpairs, 26 overpairs vs sets, 3 AA vs KK (Won 1, lol) and 8 KK vs AA (Also won 1, lol.)

So now i dont have to blame luck stupidly, I now have proof!

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