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Old 10-05-2007, 04:59 AM
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would you be happier if that graph was upside down heisenberg? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:26 AM
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Im really close to having a nervous breakdown.. this [censored] never ends... (October)



At least I have my sexiest sexy under my belt...

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.5BB, 4 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.

Results:
Final pot: 16.5BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Tc Ts</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 mucks 4d 6h</font>

When your showdown stats are 45/39 for games as good as these over 600 hands... its time to contemplate a different line of work.

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you're running horribly and making well over $20 an hour. Not really that bad. When you start running good and making over $100 an hour come on here and post about how balla everything is and how you pwn the world. It will be fun, and you'll owe it to yourself so you can look back and remember it.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:10 AM
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Dr Olsen,
holy crap!
post more?
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:36 AM
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Dr Olsen

screenname? (stars right?) I'd like to avoid you kthx
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:59 AM
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So, this is one of the first hands I played when taking a shot at 2/4:

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Okay, so he as diamonds (donk on 2 flush board is about 90% flush draw.)

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

Okay, maybe he doesn't. He has A8? Nah, he has diamonds.

River: (11 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Well, there is no point in betting when he won't call with his diamond draw.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 5d 2d (high card, ace).
Hero has As Td (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 11 BB. </font>

FTOP perfect. After he says that he misclicked on the turn. Ya right buddy. I'm not sure why I decided to take the spew line on the turn. I guess I just thought that once you get past 1/2, turn raises actually start to mean less than 2 pair more often. This theory hasn't worked as well lately though.


This one is for miles.

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks.

Turn: (3.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, CO folds.

River: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9d Ts (two pair, tens and nines).
MP has 7h Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.25 BB. </font>
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:33 AM
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More fun against 2/4 LAGs:

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

2 flush theory again. Remember when aces were scare cards? Those were the days. I actually don't mind his play here. I mean, if he wasn't playing almost every hand and raising half of those, I wouldn't mind his play.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 3d 2d (high card, ace).
Hero has Jh Js (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.50 BB. </font>
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:35 AM
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Is your 3bet standard? I assume you three bet for value as well as to get teh sb out?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:39 AM
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Is your 3bet standard? I assume you three bet for value as well as to get teh sb out?

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No, but the guy was overaggressive and the SB was one of those loose random aggressive guys. Raising protects my hand against the SB's numerous gutshots. SB was the type of guy to donk an A as well. Heads up I might just call down and let him bluff that river, because that's what I would do with an A as well.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:41 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Is your 3bet standard? I assume you three bet for value as well as to get teh sb out?

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No, but the guy was overaggressive and the SB was one of those loose random aggressive guys. Raising protects my hand against the SB's numerous gutshots. SB was the type of guy to donk an A as well. Heads up I might just call down and let him bluff that river, because that's what I would do with an A as well.

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This is the BB from the last hand:


PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (10.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kc Ks (two pair, kings and tens).
CO has Kd Qd (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 14.25 BB. </font>

This is just a case of LAGs not understanding that some people actually pay attention. He would have raised a T on that flop 100% of the time and now he expects me to believe he actually would play it passively. Notice the bluff call as well. How does he think that river changes anything?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:42 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
So, this is one of the first hands I played when taking a shot at 2/4:

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Okay, so he as diamonds (donk on 2 flush board is about 90% flush draw.)

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

Okay, maybe he doesn't. He has A8? Nah, he has diamonds.

River: (11 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Well, there is no point in betting when he won't call with his diamond draw.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 5d 2d (high card, ace).
Hero has As Td (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 11 BB. </font>

FTOP perfect. After he says that he misclicked on the turn. Ya right buddy. I'm not sure why I decided to take the spew line on the turn. I guess I just thought that once you get past 1/2, turn raises actually start to mean less than 2 pair more often. This theory hasn't worked as well lately though.



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I would never three bet that turn, because if I did I'd get capped 75% of the time and lose or get called 25% and lose. Good read, though.
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