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Old 09-14-2007, 10:36 PM
grouchie grouchie is offline
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

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lol shipit

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bows
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

sick run renton. very nice
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

I am having my tilt avoidance level tested tonight. Had a good run yesterday, dropped it tonight in less than an hour.

Just about every hand I have raised tonight has gotten 3 bet. Except the AA hand of course but it got cracked by a set.

I am fighting the move up and chase the loss move. May have to go play some donkaments or something.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

Sigh..basically all in with a donk PF, I have QQ, he has A4o. Of course the A comes, there goes another buyin.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

word?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($85.55)
UTG ($13.35)
UTG+1 ($142.15)
MP1 ($36.15)
MP2 ($50)
Hero ($53.60)
Button ($28.70)
SB ($12.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($7.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.25</font>, UTG+1 calls $4.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14.25</font>, BB calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10.

Turn: ($50.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36.85 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $36.85.

River: ($0) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $124.20

Results below:
UTG+1 has As Qc (full house, queens full of aces).
Hero has Ks Th (straight, ace high).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $124.20.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

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word?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($85.55)
UTG ($13.35)
UTG+1 ($142.15)
MP1 ($36.15)
MP2 ($50)
Hero ($53.60)
Button ($28.70)
SB ($12.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($7.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.25</font>, UTG+1 calls $4.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14.25</font>, BB calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10.

Turn: ($50.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36.85 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $36.85.

River: ($0) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $124.20

Results below:
UTG+1 has As Qc (full house, queens full of aces).
Hero has Ks Th (straight, ace high).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $124.20.

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Fold Preflop
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

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Fold Preflop

[/ QUOTE ]no ty, i don't suck postflop.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

PokerStars Game #12064760085: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/09/15 - 00:12:37 (ET)
Table 'Amalasuntha' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: go2guy5050 ($7.60 in chips)
Seat 2: Sharkey64 ($30.95 in chips)
Seat 3: twolivebru ($16.25 in chips)
Seat 4: CaUsE1NeeD ($22.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Coordi ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: BARRETO_06 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 8: jc9778 ($18.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ElPato24 ($17.45 in chips)
Coordi: posts small blind $0.10
BARRETO_06: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Coordi [As Ah]
jc9778: folds
ElPato24: folds
go2guy5050: folds
Sharkey64: folds
twolivebru: raises $0.50 to $0.75
CaUsE1NeeD: raises $1.25 to $2
Coordi: raises $3 to $5
BARRETO_06: folds
twolivebru: folds
CaUsE1NeeD: raises $5 to $10
Coordi: raises $15 to $25 and is all-in
CaUsE1NeeD: calls $12.10 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [3d Ts 9h]
*** TURN *** [3d Ts 9h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [3d Ts 9h 8d] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Coordi: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
CaUsE1NeeD: shows [Ac Qc] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
CaUsE1NeeD collected $42.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $45.20 | Rake $2.25
Board [3d Ts 9h 8d Jh]
Seat 1: go2guy5050 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Sharkey64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: twolivebru folded before Flop
Seat 4: CaUsE1NeeD (button) showed [Ac Qc] and won ($42.95) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 5: Coordi (small blind) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: BARRETO_06 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: jc9778 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ElPato24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

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Fold Preflop

[/ QUOTE ]no ty, i don't suck postflop.

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You do seem to kind of suck at life though.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: ** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

I was doing some thinking about 'fake-misclicks'.

This is basically when you have a very strong hand, and make an abnormally sized bet. This is done with the hopes your opponent will sense come kind of weakness and try to push you off your hand, or call down with a less marginal holding than they usually would.

Anyways, I was thinking of some ways you could exploit people in this way and came up with something pretty sneaky.

Now, I'm sharing because it wont really work well at my limits -- it's much better at 25NL or 50NL. It's also just an idea, I don't advocate using this! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Also forgive me if this is painfully standard, as I havn't played these limits for some time.

Now, in order for this to work, you need to have at least 101bb's at the table. It's also ideal when you have a few limpers in front of you.

So let's say you're playing 25NL and pick up AA on the button. Two limpers toss in thier .25$ and its to you. Instead of making a standard raise, you now raise to $25.25.

When it gets back to the limpers (or even the BB), they will see the option to call "$25", instead of "$.25".

Also, when you raise, you're only putting 2 chips in (the $25 and the $.25 chip), just like if you were minraising (2 $.25 chips). This is the key, and why it wont work as well at my limits.

It's very easy for your opponents to mistake this raise for a simple min-raise, and call off thier stack with trash. Hell, you might even get two callers with your aces!

I havn't tested this, but I think it could interesting.
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